Test/Winstrol Cycle. Maybe Tren too? Advice from the gurus please :D
First of all, I've stepped up my game. After taking a number of peoples advice from eroids i have managed to reach a physique i never thought i would have.
I'm currently about 8 weeks off my PCT. I lost some gains of course, but managed to keep a reasonable size and a very good physique.. PICS: http://www.eroids.com/pics/me-8-weeks-after-pct-d
As you can see Ive worked on my legs.. and seen great progress from before. What worked for me? Staying on heavy weights.. even when off.
Okay now, i need some advice for a clean cycle.. Mainly cutting but obviously we put on size with any AAS.
I was thinking of something simple like this.
Test-E 650mg 1-12
Winstrol 50mg 1-12
Or maybe even
Test-P 1-4 @ 150mg EOD
Test-E 1-10 @ 600mg per week.
Test-P 11-12 @ 100mg EOD
WInstrol 2-12 @ 50mg ED
Now for the main question which i might get flamed for.. Should/Do i need Tren? I was thinking i could run winstrol/test/tren. Im looking at competing in the next 2 years so im really taking this seriously.
Starting HGH back up next week, 4UI ED (Pharma Grade)
PCT... dependent on what cycle i end up choosing.
All advice is welcome, I appreciate any comments.
Thanks
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No one commented on his left woman boob? that is some nice gyno you got there! I am not impressed either by your quads; no form or definition to them; just big. Also you have the lean look; but no mass and any muscle group that is impressive. BUT in your defense that is what I looked like at 16; all natty and without trying to pump a ton of chemicals in me. I wont respond again but you need to take a fkn step back and realize whatever you are doing or trying to do is not working.
Bro,
I remember you from last year! Judging by your post it wouldn't appear that you have changed any.
I'm not going to get in the middle of your "discussion" with Viking. Just keep on educating him. You must think you have much to contribute to his AAS knowledge. I hope that when that process ends you will be able to look back at your brief time on eroids and apply what you have learned about interacting with people to real life situations.
What do you like in particular about Winny? I'm anticipating a well articulated answer here. Tren? Would you like my Tren lecture? Or, would a simple absolutely not suffice?
GearHead
Here's some advice, I'm not a guru but I know a little something- your 23, shit can the Tren thought. At 23 you don't need the beans yet. But I see we have surpassed that. And if your looking at a cut your test dose is too high, 12 weeks of oral is stupid, even if it was var it would still be stupid, just my opinion. 23 HGH? SMH. Read more!
I guess some moderators are molding 23's so... I dont have the experience to help a 23 year old sorry.
Winstrol for 12 weeks??????
no way.
What does that statement mean?????.... you trying to wind me up!......... explain yourself and put some real stats in your profile,,,,, YES you now have full MOD attention.
Forget both of those ideas for starters...... and why do you need GH @23yrs of age?...... explain to me what you really think it will do for you at this stage/level of physique please.
I have read plenty of times why steroids should not be used prior to 25. However I have not retained or dont recall why HGH should not be used prior to 25. This question is not directed at Viking but at anybody on the board that knows the answer, for my own educational purposes, thanks.
Thats a great question; I have a friend from when we were kids that had a growth problem combined with low T so his doctor put him on hgh from when he was 8 until he was 18. Unfortunately it did very little to help him grow.He only grew about 6 inches and yes he is a midget. He is now on HRT for the rest of his life. The doctors told his parents it was a long shot due to how old he was but they would have rather gave him gh then test shots even when he was in his teens. But to answer the question it was prescribed to combat his bone growth and he did not gain tons of muscle or mass; he gained 6 inches of bone growth.
I am shooting from the hip here but if I recall the main reason is that all of your growth plates have not fused until 25. By introducing large amounts of HGH he could risk Acromegaly, (just one among others) not only that but we really do not have scientific studies to show what long term use of HGH may do , especially of one were to start that young.
I think around this place the use of HGH is taken a little too cavalierly it is still a serious compound.
Spot on bro :))
Why would i use HGH? The same reason i would use Test.
I'm in no way trying to argue with you, But i know some guys who are very experienced regarding HGH, (pscarb for example) and as they say... Does'nt matter if your 20 or 80. Adding more HGH on top of what you already have will make a difference.
The same as my test levels are decent... I add more test i get big. Its the same principle bro... With most chemicals that you put into your body... It will effect you.
I thank you for the concern though. i have 3 cycles under by belt... all with test-e or test-p. i ran deca (big mistake) on 2nd cycle. and ran anavar with 3rd cycle.
What would a good dosage/protocol/length be fore Test and Winstrol cycle then?
3 cycles under belt.... well whoop de fkn dooo, you have people very experienced in hgh? go get approval from them then, quit clogging this forum up with troll posts, you take test you get big? again whoop de fkn dooo, we dont want ppl like you disrespecting our most real life experienced member, we want to learn from him, you might not but dont fk it up for the rest of us. very rude, learn a bit of respect.troll.
Alright you win........... i bow out here because i am just fkn sick to the back teeth of trying to educate you young fucking know it alls, go ahead do what you wish son and i then can spend more time looking after myself......... you believe more is better then go for it!...... i hope you can enjoy at least 10% of what i have achieved in this lifestyle and still do for that matter.
Dont bother responding to this im done here................ good luck.
Can lead them to water but can't force them to drink. Some people are just stubborn douche bags. He will be back wanting medical advice on how to get his nuts to turn back into round balls... SMH
Its not how many mg of oil you can pump into your ass that makes you big its the amount of calories you shove down your throat.
And there it is.
booom.
At that age you don't need AAS at all but I see you've already taken that leap. NO to Tren to young and its not needed. What compounds do you have experience with and how many cycles?
Okay thanks, And yes ive taken the leap, so lets leave it there.
I have 3 cycles under my belt. All test based (test e and/or test-p) Ran deca with my 2nd cycle (which i regret) and anavar with my 3rd.
Thanks
You ran deca (a 19nor) which you regret and you want to run a way more powerful drug (also 19nor) in it's place?
Man I regret taking this Percocet, better move on to Vicodin!
I don't know I don't feel comfortable giving help you're body hasn't matured yet hormonally.
That statement has me concerned also.