posted Fri, 03/30/2012 - 20:14
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Test/Deca cycle What ester?
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I've done a few cycles with test and deca with long esters and only pinned once per week. I've been reading and it seems to keep more consistent blood levels maybe I should use a short ester like prop and pin more frequently. I've done enough that I don't think I would mind EOD depending on the ester, but I would like to get the most out of it. I'm 5'8" 215, and goal is lean mass. I prefer deca to help with bad knee joints. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Truthfully long esters are much easier to keep stable blood levels because the half life is longer. short esters act faster thus cycles are shorter but pinning is much more frequent and to really keep stable blood levels with short esters they should be pinned everyday, thats how I pin short esters however you can get away with EOD. But to tell you the truth you havent really experienced a good cycle if your pinning once a week and I would recommend that you do a long ester and pin it every 3.5 days, 2wice a week to maintain stable blood levels!
Prop @ 150eod and npp (short estered deca)@ 100eod? 8 week cycle. Pct 4 days after. Shorter esters seem to be better for lean gain. I think
THIS is the type of non thinking advice giving we are going to be putting a stop to... the generic one size fits all types of responses...
Here is a guy who was pinning ONCE a week and calling it a cycle so his experience is obviously limited and you just throw out a standardized cycle advice with little to no consideration for the individuals history
Wow buddy, he says he doesn't mind pinning eod. Wants lean mass. My advice is sound, if not to your liking.
A minus for this is harsh, I didn't advise anything dangerous or technically wrong. Can you rethink this?
Read his post bro... he says hes pinned ONCE A WK... how does he know what ED/EOD is going to be like? I'm seasoned and it can get harsh for me sometimes. Technique and site rotation are a learned skill and its irresponsible to tell someone to just to pin up.
This is NOT a personal attck on you my man. We've been having dicussions in the back room about this. The very nature of Eroids brings a diverse group from EVERY level and we have a lot of guys throwing out one size fits all information here. THIS is not okay ESPECIALLY with noobies looking for what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear. Not saying we are going to change the minds of every 21 yr old knucklhead who believes tren for a first cycle is an "awesome idea" but we do need to set the tone that we WILL NOT support unintelligent cycles and that we are a SAFTEY AND HEALTH CONSCIOUS BOARD
my .02
Fair play. I get and respect what you are saying. You could have said that and imo it didn't require the docked point. It's not like i said 'fuck that shit mate, tren a all the way'!
Bollocks to it, I'll get over it:-)
You get it back for undrstanding bro... like I said, not personal just the wrong post at the wrong time. We're gonna start cracking down on this stuff and you were the first to get hit ; )
Sounds good, I'll give it a go.
OK, that makes sense. In the past I've been around 500 test, 400 deca. Should I stick with that just even out the dosing? Or should I up the mgs?
you can up the deca to 500... some say run test higher than deca but I've done 500/500 without a hitch.
wks 1-12 test e 250 2xwk
wks 1-12 deca 250 2xwk
wks 13-14 test prop 75-100 EOD
have some caber on hand for (possible) sides and have PCT in place BEFORE you start cycle, Train hard and eat big and you should be pleased with your results
(insert standard age, stats cyle history here)
But seeing you say that you have a cpl "cycles" under you I would suggest stick with the long ester and pin 2xWK and get a proper cycle in and maybe experiment with site rotation before you jump into short esters
my .02