test prop only cycle.
Hey guy's,
Was after little help, please critis this as you want. If you have a look at my profile you'll find that I'm 26, 170cm (for you people in USA, that's short ;) ) and 74k. I have competed twice with places in both divisions, so yes I have been lifting for a while and have good musclar maturity. I had my heart set on a mast prop/ test prop and trenbolone acetate cycle when I realised four cycles don't not warrant me ready and I'm happy staying with test cycles as I still make great gains (last one 8kg. my plan is;
Compound- Week 1-8 test prop at 150mg eod or 100mg every second.
AI- arimidex at 0.2-0.5mg eod, or as needed
Pct- 4 days after last pin
Novaladex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 150/100/50/50
No hcg
Why test prop you say? Well I am in a job that requires frequent drug tests and steroid testing is unlikely but not uncommon, so this steroid will provide me with less detection risks (about 3-4 weeks detection time). My previous experience with this ester was my first cycle which I finished a test e cycle with two weeks of test prop at 100mg eod and felt great, better strength then test e.
Let me know what you think. Also would a short life oral like anavar be worth adding? Dbol is detectable for to long.
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unless youre applying to be a cop or other government worker i highly doubt they would test for AAS, but as you said they tested one guy. if it so happens that they tested this guy because he was "jacked" that could be cause for a serious lawsuit, but thats another matter.
as long as you have experience with prop and the PIP it can cause and injection frequency, id say the cycle looks pretty good. im always one to inject as often as tolerable for more stable blood levels and with prop id go ED personally, but thats all personal preference. most will pin prop EOD without issue. only thing i would change and i keep saying this every cycle advice post. use aromasin! why everybody keeps using arimidex is beyond me. if anyone would like to comment on why im interested in hearing the reasoning. aromasin is a superior drug imo and you want to continue AI support through pct as well but not with a type 2 inhibitor like arimidex because you will have estrogen rebound afterwards and can end up with some nasty sides post cycle. if you already have arimidex then run that during but id highly recommend getting some aromasin to run through pct
AnonIve used adex and aromasin and never had a problem with either. No estrogen rebound with adex ever, and Ive always been skeptical of that. If you have some actual research about it I would love to learn more and educate myself. I cant seem to find much about it.
Ive actually found its easier for me personally to control estro with adex. Maybe I dont respond as well to aromasin I dunno, on paper it seems the superior ai but everyone is different.
Interesting, nar pip isn't that bad with the brand I used last. I'll probably go for ed too and aromasin I.never gave it a thought. Might be time to go back to the planning stage. Run it in the pct to hey? Same dosages or lower. Also taper it like you would with most serms? Thanks for the reply. I gave it a green
Yah, run it all the way through. Once you introduce it into your cycle keep running it until you discontinue your clomid and nolva. I prefer 12.5mg/ day and then taper down to 6.25mg/ day the last two weeks of pct. depending on how estrogen prone you are you may need more, or may need less but that's the taper I personally use. Constant dose, then last two weeks cut it in half. ...I don't think your entire cycle needs replanning bro, just look more into your AI. Aromasin vs arimidex. As jello said he's never had estrogen rebound from adex but based on the facts it's completely possible and plausible for this to happen and I rather be safe than sorry by using aromasin instead. Just my .02
Yeah thanks, I have tried a-dex twice. So I'll research aromasin and give it a try, I might like it better. Test and try. I'll let you know how I go. Thanks
no worries, its my AI of choice. and it has more benefits over Adex like it boosts igf-1 levels as well as testosterone levels besides just lowering estrogen. another reason why its better for pct, imo
RustyhookerNoone tests for roids on drug screen. Just the normal chems.
If you're going dry stack, prop/mast and var is a favorite.
They tested one guy, and he was employed. That's slot going on there, what doses does someone new to mast and Var usually take? Mast I could do 75mg eod then try 100mg later? And avavar I need to research morE E.
RustyhookerResearch thoroughly. Saw palmetto is good in there too. Beginner could be simple.
1-6 test p 100 eod
1-8 mast p 75 eod
2-8 var 50 split am/pm
7-8 test 75
The test drop let's you dry a bit. But you can keep it 100 constant.
2 days after last pin pct. Ai on hand as needed. Diet will dictate. Cutting...go clean. Bulking..of course bigger calories. Var kills appetite so clean eating is easy. Strength gains are nice. If bulking research tbol at same dose and time.
Why does everyone think im trying to make a cutting cycle, trying a simple compound because I'm newish thanks mate, great information. I will go research it some more. Also tbol, have heard and done a little research nothing extensive but keen to learn little more on it. I'm not trying to do a cutting cycle, trying to gain as much lean muscle as possible but little wet gains are ok, do like the bloat a little (like dbol). I'm at 10% body fat, so I'm not going to start until I'm 7-8% again. (mini cut) then a great bulk.
Thanks.
RustyhookerProbably because you didn't explain a thing as far as goals. Typically when it's SPRING time and folks post PROP & MAST PROP .......deductive reasoning. But you were probably too busy trolling with forum after forum and no research or real info.
What's your stats again...mate?
Fair call. Nar I'm definitely not trolling, was just curious, and I know now. Thanks
My stats are-
Age 26
Height 170cm
Weight 74.8
Bf 10%
Lifting about 5 years
Hope this helps.
Hey dude...start.with Var 50mg ed in divided doses.....get lipids tested on BW...
Also, probably be good for you to work on your macros keeping carbs low 50-80g/day, protein 250g/d and fat 120g/d to meet your goals....
As many times as u have cycled, your weight seems low and body fat seems high for your experience with AAS....maybe you should spend more money on food...know what i am saying mate....
Thanks for the reply. I have only ever done one bulking cycle. I was to court up in the fitness model crap (then I grew a set, compete with the big boys-bodybuiling) my previous have been things like albuterol and winnie and dbol only (regret that hard, thought I could use it as preworkout, stupid things you do when your young) but I'm curious as to you don't have any pictures uploaded? You compete? You should upload one. 200ibs at 6 foot something not to massive either for your experience. You might relate to ectomorph problem as well?
Anon69" is five feet nine inches, not six foot something... That height at 200lbs seems solid to me.
My mistake, thought I read 6 foot 9 inchs. 5 ft 9 at 200ibs is great. Feel small now haha good work
AnonNo worries
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Sorry MedEx. Appreciate your help.
Good info from all bros in this thread. Just like RH said above....diet dictates everything...u can appreciate all of our help...