Test Prop For The Roid Rage Folk
Newer to the Eroids Community and Happy to be a part of the good folk we choose to better themselves.
From a few years of training and gear, I have found out that for me especially steroids can change my behavior. I am a bit of a tempered type of man and with steroids as we know can provoke temper like behaviors. In my personal experience, I have known long ester cycles to be effective (such as test e with some d bol etc.) except the fact that without a good ai such as letro or aromasin estrogen is through the roof which can cause some behaviors such as crankiness, attitude, water weight, not being hungry, fatigue and much more.
Now for those like me who are on a budget, I would suggest something a little different as a cycle plan!
A simple test prop cycle is not a bad option for some good quality gains during the on or off season. Estrogen and side effects are more manageable I noticed after my last Test P run at 150mg eod (every other day).
Now people who dislike pinning frequently maybe this isn't the right thing for you, although for those who can tough it out and be persistant with finding time to pin eod, this can be a good option
I noticed
-Controlled hormone levels
-Steady (healthy) blood pressure readings
-Less acne
-Less aggression out of the gym
-Very slightly increased liver values compared to test cyp and test e
-little bloat especially in the face (we all dislike moonface) haha
The fact is that test p has been great to me and my girlfriend likes me bigger on this type of test. I don't have to fear about snapping in an argument or disagreement like I use to and the sex drive factor has been like no other! Morning wood is an everyday thing now unlike before.
Some may disagree, but I feel this is what EROIDS is all about! Tell your experience and contribute to the lifting community. Let's all Not go about "dying trying" and let's all be healthy and grow our body, mind as individuals and as a bodybuilding community as a whole!
Happy Growing Everyone!
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.... I'm not sure what you're saying here are you saying the test prop causes less liver values or test p combined with dbol instead of test e has less effect on liver values? Cause an injectable shouldn't have any effect on the liver. It bypasses it. Now I'll agree that I can control the hormones better with prop but that's the testosterone side of the hormones not estro. Estro can arise with any drug that aromatases regardless of ester.... and less acne with prop than enanthate... that's new to me bud! After the noobs read this every source is going to be out of test prop that's fr sure lmfao. And like makwa said the dbol is probably what had your estro going nuts that shit is bad for having high estro....
yeah it was just a personal experience. My sides were worse with test e like the sides stated without the dbol. The d bol was mentioned as just for when I was finishing the cycle. Used it as a closer to the end of the cycle. Should have used anavar or something like t bol so I wasn't finishing all puffy. But you know you live and you learn, just thought it was a topic worth sharing haha
wrong on the liver bypass....injectables goes through it once. orals, twice. it's just less liver toxic.
Yes but very minimal you shouldn't even notice a change in values with something like test e or p. Problems only arise over a long extended period of time.... unless you're using something like tren which still shouldn't effect it that much
the thing one would need to worry about with liver and kidney health with non-methylated injectables is benzyl benzonate conent. to much BB being processed by the body is not a good thing, and too much can elevate your values. so pinning multiple CCs of low concentrated gear (test prop, tren ace, masteron ect.) if one was shooting 1x cc of each a day and each solution has 20%bb... youre getting on to .6ml+ of pure BB ed!
Right but it has nothing to do with it being enanthate or propionate
Are you comparing a test e/dbol cycle with a test p cycle. Totally different beast with the dbol. Manage your estrogen properly for each cycle and their shouldn't be any issues. Dbol can make estrogen control real tricky.
Used it for the last 3 weeks instead of first 3 weeks like I should have. Next cycle I was thinking about some anavar for the last 3 weeks. what do you think?
Depends on your goals but var for three weeks isn't going to do much.
Test E and dbol is not a 19-nor cycle. Not sure Test p increases liver values less than long ester test. Perhaps this is in comparison to a test e and dbol cycle? orals are what really jack up your liver values.
good point I was running d bol so my liver toxicity was greater than test e alone. I might want to try next phenyl prop. Have you ever used this?
ManimalKingTest phenyl prop will blow your socks off!!
I love short esters and I agree with all your points as I've had the same experiences that defined my preference.