posted Mon, 10/15/2012 - 09:31
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Test E + PHs?
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Hi buddy bros. I'm about to start my second cycle (bulking). Stats: 5ft9 175 lbs 8% bf. I ran a the basic Test E 500mg/week for 10 weeks almost a year ago. I'd like to add another compound to this cycle for a kickstart because it took almost 7 weeks to feel the Test E. I could use some Dbol but I have plenty of prohormones sitting in my closet. I have some H-drol, Super DMZ 2.0, Ultradrol, Dieselbolan and Epistane. I never ran any phs before but I heard good things from then like Super DMZ being really potent like Superdrol. I'm wondering which one is the more suited as a kickstart. Should I even consider stacking two of them? I also heard Epistane acts like Anavar, so would you suggest me to run it the last 4 weeks?
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Thx for replies. So I'll try to sell them and get some Tbol or Dbol. Anadrol too hard for now right?
Drol is way too hard. Dbol already pushes the estro fight. Keep it simple. Even after you done a dozen cycles...advanced one still are base cycles with different small adds. Gives the user more control
How old are you my friend?
I'm 23. I know it's a bit young but I've been training for 5 years natural and put on 60 lbs of lean meat. I was a skinny fuck back then lol.
I would slow down. If your going to go ahead regardless, stick to test e. Do your research and figure out if this is really for you now. life is pretty long and there is plenty of time for roids. Have you really maxed out your natural potential. Is your diet and training and lifestyle spot on?
Research ai's, pct, diet and training a ton and take your time getting into this. It's hard to leave alone once you've used. Think long term buddy.
Thank you for your advices. I'm pretty close to my max. My bones and organs are really small. My physician said I could weight around 190 if I wasn't a super ectomorph. Well for PCT I have clomid/nolva and arimidex during cycle in case of gyno. Diets really good bro. Shit load of brown rice, chickens, lean ground beef, almonds, sweet potatoes, tuna... In a year, I'll get my job and I can get fired if I get caught using steroids so that's why I'd like to do a cycle, maybe two before. I did a ton of research because I care about my health (sounds ironic here lol) but it's hard to get info on PH's due to lack of researches on them.
I would leave it for now, however appealing it my seem now. You will really struggle to not cycle when you get your job once you have started. Your going to do what your going to do though. Good luck buddy
Lol, these people sound silly, other than hdrol, and I think epistane, these are AAS's.
-DMZ takes weeks to build up
-Hdrol takes weeks to build up
-Dieselbolan is SD, and M-lmg doesn't take any time to buildup. Good for bulk
-Epistane dries you out, with good strength gains, and libido boost. Takes time to buildup. Like a legal mans winny.
-Ultradrol can be used to recomp, cut and bulk very well. If you've never used it before. Blast it at 20-24mg for 4 weeks. The stuff is legit as hell. Best kicker I've ever used. It's Superdrol without the back pumps, sides, and lethargy. Libido was up, phantom back pumps at best, and 0 lethargy. It's wonderful, but IMO, from both use and reviews. It does have diminishing returns for soem reason. So it's good to just blast it hard your first time.
Thx for your reply. Do you think running Epistane week 8-12 on a Test E 10 week is a good idea or it'll be a waste?
Trying to dry up and get cut, then yes. Although the problem is, Epi is a hit or miss for people, it either works or doesn't. There are non-responders to it. But if you were. I'd run it 40/40/50/60/60/60. It will dry and cut you up nicely if your diet is on point and you respond well to it. If you want a sure thing, then go with winny.
Just get the real stuff... I mean dont rush it unless you have cycle experience but from what I have done and my experience, the sides are harsher with less results from PH than AAS. Dont get it confused, I am not saying that AAS has lower sides but the trade off isnt worth it, just do the real stuff
Test with tbol. 500 test e with 50/day tbol first 6 Weeks.
X2, don't bother with the PHs
I agree. Prohormones have less research and more side effects in most cases.
Stick to dbol or turinabol or anavar. Side effects are pretty low with tbol and anavar.
Bulking tosses var out. Kills the apetite. :(