Test E / Deca /Test Prop/ TNE
What's up guys, getting ready to start my 2nd test e/ deca/ terst prop cycle... In addition to the test e /deca/prop I will be adding some test suspension(tne) - Couple questions, but here is How I plan on running it
Weeks 1-6: test prop @ 100mg e.o.d
weeks 1-10: Deca @ 400mg split into 2 inj of 200mg 2x/wk
weeks 1-12: Test E @ 600mg split into 2 inj of 300 2x/wk
week13: prop@ 100mg e.o.d.
week 14: prop @ 75m mg e.o.d.
3 days after last pin begin p.c.t.
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
First time running tne, just wanted to get everybody's 2 pennies on how much worked for them. 1ml? And how long before training? 1 hr? 30 mins? Also: Last cycle I started feeling like a human pin cushion between the prop e.o.d. and the test deca 2x wk. Is there any difference if I just pin the test e/deca 1x wk @ their respective dosages Instead of splitting them up 300/300 - 200/200? thanks guys.
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personally if i was running this cycle I would stop my kicker at 4 weeks, if you run it to 6 your gonna have a crash week 7 when the levels drop back down. week 4 would be about as ideal as your gonna get for keeping stable blood levels while running a kick start
TNE adds to unstable blood levels and will be an additional difficulty for you to take care of. Id back up pretty much anything the vets tell you to do. So drop the TNE. From my own experience TNE gave me bloat, puffy face, and it was hard to get rid of. It is a great PreWO but I actually liked prop better. TNE also leads to a crash shortly after your workout, or during if you dont time it right. Honestly you wont be missing any out on any extra gains with the TNE, so why run it and deal with complications, than lose out on gains. All these tiny complications add up to a loss in gains. You must pin the deca and test E at least twice a week.
Stay basic....leave tne. What you posted will big bulk if diet is big too. Exmastane works and rolls right into the below pct perfectly. The other guys dialed you in right.
cdaddy7Also with the recent bloodwork and success I want u to consider our new PCT for better cycle recovery...
Which AI u are using on cycle u will run it until the day ur PCT starts and it will be this layout
Week 1 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 2 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 3 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 4 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
You may consider running 6.25mg EOD on Weeks 1-4 if you feel 12.5mg is too strong
I like the way it looks. Any benifit to lowering the nolva dosage? Or substituting it partially with aromasin? Better recovery? Keep more gains? = )
cdaddy7Check this link....u will see why we have it dosed appropriately
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/gcz%E2%80%99s.....
hllwdboy. I just planned on taking 1ml before heavier training days. Would that still be out? And I can get some exemestane. ran everything last cycle with no issues, but I am upping dosages this cycle. I want to do it right that's why I ask you guys, I know you are more experienced.
Brutha we ALL get excited about the next cycle and fantasize about compound combos but you are in early history so enjoy the simple cycles (THEY WORK JUST FINE) You have plenty of time to explore compounds.
BE THE TURTLE!
I def do!! You are right tho.. More isn't always better. I research the shit out of everything before I even consider doing it. tne looked like a pretty simple/safe addition to my cycle, and I figured it would help me put a little bit more weight on the bar on chest, and shoulder days. As far as plenty of time..ehh, I wouldn't say plenty.. ; ) (check my stats brother.)
No tne? = ( I have caber on hand if needed, but didn't plan on using it unless necessary. Sorry cdaddy I should have been more clear, this is my 2nd cycle running this combo(minus the tne) - this is my 2nd inj cycle. First time was prop kicker, test e/ deca prop taper test e 500mg/wk deca 250mg/wk prop 100mgeod first six wks, and last 2wks
cdaddy7I'm with H, leave TNE out this round...glad to here you have caber on hand..u need an AI to run on cycle bc deca causes an acceleration in estrogen conversion....consider running the test prop for the week 1-4 as a kicker and then taper with the prop at week 12-14...
cdaddy7Splitting keeps the blood levels more stable for me....do u plan to run an AI and do u have caber or Prami? So is this ur 2nd cycle ever or just 2nd with this combo?
There is no mention on how you are running TNE but no matter my suggestion is DON'T. Its your 2nd cycle, slow your roll. Prop/Test/Deca will yield very acceptable gains. And split your doses 2x a wk to maintain hormone levels.
Run an ai and have caber on hand
Steadier serum levels are the obvious, but In terms of gains ? etc?