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Test e , deca , anadrol , arimidex 12 weeks bulk cycle

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stats: 25yo, 174 cm , 80 kg , 9% bf. been training for 5 years. this will be my 5 th cycle.

1-12 week test e 900 mg
1-10 week deca 600 mg
1-5 week dbol 60mg or anapolon 100mg
arimidex will be on eod.

pct : 2 week after the last shot start clomid at 100mg and nolwadex 40mg for 3-4 weeks.

diet: bulk
6am- 1 scoop serious mass
7am- 15egss (only 1 or 2 whole egg) with 3 pcs whole wheat bread and some peanut butter on
9.30am- 250gr chicken/100gr rice
12pm- 250gr beef cubes/100gr rice
2.30pm- 250gr chicken/100gr rice
5pm- 250gr beef cubes/100gr rice
7pm - 8pm at the gym
post workout 2 scoop optimum whey
9pm- 300gr tilapia fish/100gr rice
11.30pm 1 scoop casein protein

training:
monday- leg
tuesday-chest
wednesday-arm
thursday- shoulder
friday- leg
saturday- back
sunday- rest

supps are ; weight gainer, whey, casein, bcaa, glutamine, nox, inta workout, creatine, multivitamins, and zma. every meal includes the steamed veggies like brocolli etc.
so its about 500gr protein, 600-700gr carbs, no junks/cheating so fat comes only from foods.
5000 more cals.

what you guys think about this bulk cycle? how much gains i would expect from it?

Puchy's picture

25yo... 80kg... already running 1g of test... now that is bad... really bad.
You should be able to achieve these stats without any gear...

cem sen's picture

80kg because it was after a cutting cycle mate, and im 9%bf now, i wonder have you ever been to under 10%bf. 80 kg with 15+%bf have very different looking than 80 kg with 8 9 % bf ;)

Puchy's picture

Just think about how much will you need in lets say 5 years if your already on a gram now. Even some pros don't need that much...

And yes, I know what under 10% bf looks like... I was at your stats before even touching gear...

In the end its your body and you can do whatever you want with it... but sometimes its good to just stop, think for a second and ask yourself... "is that really what I want?"

Good Luck

ambitionzcs's picture

Yeah cem I wouldnt listen to the guy telling you to eat less that is just stupid. I could see maybe cutting the shake and eating a solid meal instead but telling you to drop protien is just dumb. Looks pretty good to me but as im sure you know you will need to make adjustments as the gains come through.

cem sen's picture

previous cycle had t mix, tren e and proviron, i gained 7 kg from it , which i almost had no carbs, just meat and veggies , and fruits every meal. 15 mins cardio every day after training. i was about 12%bf, and at the end i was 8.9% pretty decent veiny and cut. on pct; i lost 2 kg though, now so now im 80 about same maybe 9 9.5%bf. im going to start this cycles on beginning of february. lets wait and see what the gainzz will be , oh and i m going to run 500 or 1000iu hcg every week through whole cycle.

now i give a break from supps too , i wont use until my cycle starts, now i just eat properly and train with my own strengths without any supps, just to clear my body well before a long cycle.

if im gaining too much fat, im gonna drop the gainer and consume whey. other than , i dont have cheat meals like pizzas , burgers etc. but of course sometimes i do eat some snickers lol . meats are all very lean, chicken breast, tilapia, and beef cubes.

K.Bear210's picture

5 years 5 cycles,, so I see you built a really strong base before jumping on the gear. well done. (Sarcasm)

No reason whatsoever to take in that much protein..at 80kg 250g of protein per day would be more than enough overcompensation. When it comes to protein what you don't use just filters through the kidney's and out the system so whats the benefit? Even with all that juice your body is not doing enough synthesis to utilize that much. Body only can handle 35-50grams of protein per sitting max. These are not bro-science, this is readily available provable science.

IMO I would drop the weight gainer and worry not about the carbs and protein from that, and drop meal time proteins a bit.

Also, all that gear and only training each BP 4x per month? (legs 8x)? My opinion only, but if your gonna take that much juice, why not hit everything at least 6-8x a month?

cem sen's picture

first thing first EAT BIG TO GET BIG!! my each meals contains about 50-60gr of protein though which is regular amount.

training , i used to do chest/bicep, shoulder/tricep, back , and leg 4 days on 1 day off and cycle , but i like more training each part individually and about 1 hr. you dont make muscles in the gym , they grow when they have more time to recover and rest. so for upper body part once a week well suits for me , and my legs are my weak part , so i just started train 2 times a week.

K.Bear210's picture

50-60 is a waste IMO. 35-40 would be better at your bodyweight. Your not getting any benefit whatsoever at the higher quantities but your liver and kidneys are working more then need to cause your poisoning your system with things it cannot use. Again, there is absolutely not benefit in overeating protein to that extent, its readily available scientific fact.

Yes eat big to get big is a great mantra, but its very subjective. You will not grow beyond what is humanly possible even with Juice in a given period. For example, someone Taking 1,000 grams of Test is a waste IF you can gain the same results from 300. 10-15 lbs lean muscle in 16 weeks is at the highest end of the spectrum on any cycle. Taking only what you need to reach the goal and nothing more is wisdom and longevity.

Also, you don't see the inconsistency in your thinking on training? You do legs 2x a week because they are weak and you know training them twice will benefit you, they will get stronger and bigger. But in the same breath you say your upperbody will get bigger and stronger only training each body part 4x a month. Do legs recover faster?

Everybody is different and one split doesn't always works best for everyone, its just weird to me that people taking drugs that greatly reduce recovery time would take 7 days between training a BP, when the muscle is likely recovered after 2-3 days. At min. a bodypart could be trained 5-6 times a month and not 4.

just my 2 pennies.