posted Fri, 04/27/2012 - 15:29
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test e and deca question
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Running my first cycle I'm in week 3 at the moment start of week 4 is this Monday. Anyway question is I see everyone says you start to see strength gains around week 4 this I hope is true as so far I am no stronger then when I started but I have bulked up so far I have put on 10kg think that is 22lb if I'm correct. So question is if test is just kicking in now can I expect to keep growing in size? And also is there a point where you seen to stop growing in a cycle or do you just keep growing right to the end? Prob a weird question but just looking to see people experience with this and if they hit a flat spot in cycle or just keep gaining. As I know it can't be possible to just keep banging on 10kg every 3 weeks
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If your up 22 pounds then the gear is working and the strength gains are there you just need to push harder, when im on cycle ill switch up my routine all the time. my favorite is to do burn out sets one week and then heavy sets with negative failure the next. anyways as far as gains really it is all up to the person but for the most part if you used an oral kickstart like you did then gains are for me atleast made in the first 4 weeks! do I continue to grow? yes but the scale stays the same. obviously the amount you grow or off cycle depends on your diet. But if your gaging your accomplishment by the scale then you got it wrong. You can eat pizza and chesseburgers and gain weight, its easy to gain weight! Right now most, and im talking like 90% (im guessing) is water weight that your holding, the rest of your cycle is about solidifying those gains and turning them into muscle so that when you come off cycle you keep more of the gains! consintrate on your training brother, mix it up and shock those muscles to grow!
Thanks for the reply and yeah I just have to shock my muscles harder I'd say would help if I had a spotter but that is more a excuse then anything haha
I would be adding more Test real quick,................before your dick falls off.
ETA: Unless your not concerned about that.
What would you bump test upto
You really want my recommendation??
Start doing your research, NOW.
ETA: You started a thread: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-cycle-advice-2
I'm sure they gave you good advice,.........why you didn't follow it is beyond me.
SO,............your dick, your problem.
And as for advice I also asked people in person that I know have cycled before and can see they obviously know what there talking about due to there size and they said running deca straight up would be fine as for dosage this is what they told me to run it at. But I did not just take that advice I had a look through the book laymands guide to steroids volume 2 that has a cycle guide in there and the dosage it says to take with deca and test e is also written in there as 500mg test and 400mg deca . So did I not do research I say yes I did . Did I find the correct info I would say yes but u think not that is why I asked you for your input u say do research ,I already done that and I must have came across the wrong advice . We all make decisions every day
And I made my decision with the advice I had come across and advice from people I have meet in person that is all u can do . So if you do have advice throw it in here as I will look into it .
test is normally suggested 1 1/2 times to 2wice the ratio of deca to make sure you maintain a hard on. But it doesnt effect everyone the same, simple solution brother if you find it difficult to get hard, stay hard, or get off, up the test dose and you will be good in about a week to 10 days and know that you are susceptible to deca dick!
Thanks heaps for your input. I have been good so far but things can change quick I'm guessing with this stuff. I have more test then I need to have to run out this cycle so I'm all good if I need to up the dosage .might up the test to be on the safe side
U finished with the lecture? Thanks for your input
Well this is like the tail of 2 threads.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/this-is-what-happens-wh...
Also forgot to put in was running dbol for first 2 weeks got the shits with not getting anything out of it no strength gains pumps and anything so stopped taking it. Running 500mg test a week 400mg deca
No1Bro size always comes first on me before strength, around week 7 is when the strength shoots way up so just give it time
thanks for your response. yeah it's just a matter time by the sound of it. I just got to keep positive I have found it hard as I'm always second guessing if I made the right decision as to what I'm taking and the amount I am on. As I did get told to run test only on here first . But after getting advice from others that I will be fine running deca aswell I went with that option.
Anonhowever, should you experience side effects you won't know which compound is responsible.. .. maybe you should have asked why it is highly recommended to run test first by itself.. now you won't know what gains came from running test or what gains came from running deca.. will you? You won't know if the dosage on the test is optimal nor will you ever know if you would have done just as well running a test only cycle..
That is correct. So far all good no side effects not even a pimple. But things do change quick on this so could be just around the corner all the side effects.
its more about getting to know your body and the response it makes to a PARTICULAR compound.
I worked all that out but when having a misses like mine I knew she would never want me to do this once she found out and have a cry about it so wanted to do best cycle I could in case she put the foot down and said I could not do it again . It ain't her leaving that would have worried me I'd help her pack her shit but I have a baby girl with her so things like that also effect decisions