posted Tue, 08/16/2016 - 17:04
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-2 test and tren first time cycle
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good evening everyone!
after using pro hormones for years (iv ran 6 or 7 cycles) and finally doing enough research on the real stuff I want to run a cycle of test and tren.
however this being my first cycle and not completely finished doing my own research I wanted to get insight from everyone that's ran these 2 together.
what was your dosage?
what side effects?
how long?
how and what did you use for PCT?
ECT...
I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and opinion's
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Pro hormones are very toxic. I suggest that you don't use them. Never use tren for your first cycle. You are doing something very wrong weather or not your pro hormones are good or bad. You likely do not work out properly and likely do not eat very well either. In the amount of time it would take to complete 6 - 7 pro hormone cycles you could have got jacked without any ped's, just by eating well and sticking to a proper workout routine.
Go fix your diet and workout routine first. Once you fill out more of your natural potential and think your are ready, go for a test only cycle.
I've never seen so many people so quick to wanna f**k up their liver what is it about tren that that draws everyone like bugs to a light bulb get your diet tuned in put on some good muscle and enjoy all the natural test your young body has to offer!!
Whoa NoahBoah,
You may not do substances in moderation, but it's pretty obvious by your stats and your post that you do your workouts and homework in moderation.
I don't think real cycles are for you. You are going to end up frying the rest of the axis that your prohormone use already started on.
You should probably head over to your local GNC and give the bro behind the counter a wink and ask him to give you the strongest protein powder he's got and start there.
After that, purchase a membership to a gym and actually start working out. Step out of your comfort zone of girl push-ups and jumping-jacks and really work out. Ask around and spend a little time learning routines and figure out your diet.
Give your poor liver a rest and then come back and see us when you get a little older.
Man I appreciate all this valuable insight!!!
I used PH's as a catalyst for strength gains didn't use to put on muscle mass. I tore my rotator cuff 1.5 years ago and lost 17lbs after having to take 9-12 months off from the gym (so that's why I'm sitting at 170 at the moment)
I don't do anything in moderation if I'm going to do something I'd rather go hard to start with and if i cant handle it then its not for me. Im not going to just run test as a first cycle if everyone's saying don't run tren then what would be a good substitute?
AnonWhat do you mean your not just gonna run test for your first cycle? This post here is telling me that you are hell bent on doing shit wrong.... Your first cycle should always be just test so you can see how you react... Then in the following cycles you may add one compound at a time to see how you react to them and later if you have an issue you can judge which compound is causing the issue, you throw a bunch of compounds in right off the bat and your not gonna know what is causing what... Don't fuckin underestimate the power of testosterone especially on a first cycle, a guy I work with, I set him up his first cycle of test only with nolva and clomid PCT and he is 7 weeks in and has gained 25 pounds of muscle simply because I made sure he is doing it right... He had a good base to start 14% bf and he has his diet and training prioritized properly and not rely on some crazy fuckin cycle to do the work.... Simple test with pct and he's gonna probably finish this cycle with gaining over 30lbs and its all because he puts in the work in the kitchen and in the gym and planned his cycle just as I told him to.... So don't start out the way you are.... I can guarantee you tren is not the way to go especially on a first 1-2-3 cycles or more and if your just coming off an injury then your asking to get re injured if your not careful, your just not ready period
I appreciate everyone's input, some more than others.
To insinuate that I don't have a good base right now is correct. I'm not looking to immediately do a cycle. I'm going back upto 180 before starting a cycle. I'm water tested to 7% BF as I sit right now.
That being said I do tend to agree with everyone's sentiment about just doing a cycle of test as a first cycle. However just looking around on ******** what type of test should I go with?
AnonCan't mention SRC outside that suppliers page
I'm sure my input was one of those that was appreciated more than others.
Thanks for recognizing my wisdom and greatness.
As part of the wisdom that I freely impart, I would like to be the first to tell you no source talk in the forums.
That being said, I would definitely suggest a cycle of testosterone undecanoate.
Bro, I've been at the physique game a long time. You either calm down or you will tear your body up and that will end your gym career. Permanently. Tren is one of the few steroids that is psycho-active. If it doesn't agree with you and you got a nice big IM injection of the stuff, well, use your imagination . . .
tearing your rotator cuff and losing weight doesnt count towards this. i just tore my subscapularis and im dropping weight like crazy as we speak. when im all healed and ready ill be making gains naturally to get back to 200 before i cycle again to ensure my hains are stable. dont use the injury as an excuse to use aas when its not needed after you took that time off you should be able to start the diet and routine back up and bounce back without the drugs. taking time off is one of the most effective ways to bust through a plateau
It's a sure fire way to injure again. Come off an injury and blast juice , good way to get fucked up even more smfh.
exactly what will happen if he does this he will feel the stregnth hit and think hes superman.
Let me put this another way for you, you have no base for any steroid use, (injuries or no injuries), and you won't be getting cycle advice as such. You've got a cavalier attitude towards using drugs as a corner cutting exercise when you've clearly not got the basics right.
Food.
you used 6 to 7 dofferent runs of prohormones and youre only 170? what the hell did you use? i went from 170 to 185 in 3 weeks on methyl 1-ad you didnt do something right. you need to take your ass to the kitchen and stuff your face 8 to 9 times a day and lift your little ass off. forget about tren completely not for 1st cycle or a 20th. that shit isnt worth your sanity or how harsh it can be on your system.... wow eroids is hype as fuck now
You've run ph's for years to achieve this?
Stats
Age: 28
Height: 5'9 3/4
Weight: 170
BF:
They weren't very successful then were they? And now at basically 5-10 and 170 you're proposing running tren? Do you realise how ridiculous that comes across?
AnonI know.... Hasn't even broke 200
No
"Not completely finished doing my own research"
Nuff said.....
Here's everything you need to know.
AnonIg zactlyy