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sust, tren a, eq cycle

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Hi, I was going to run this as a cycle done a bit of research and really looking forward to using HGH and sust. Has anyone done a similar cycle and had good results?
Thanks

Week 1-5 anavar 50mg
Week 1-14 sust 500mg Sun,wed,fri 166mg x3 500mg 0.5ml
Week 1-2 eq 1000mg 3.3ml (front load)
Week 3-14 eq 800mg 2.6ml
Week 3-12 tren ace 400mg 1ml eod
Week 8-12 50mg winni
Hgh 4iu ed 2 shots am/pm
Week 3-13 Hcg 500ui pw
tamoxifen on hand throughout
Milk thistle on hand for orals
Pct clomid/ novidex

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I start in August so I will update on how it's going ;)

raggo123's picture

Yeah thanks man I'm having a re-think after listening to the comments Smile I'm thinking of just keeping it simple...test/deca for a bulk. It's worked well for me so why rock the boat? I think the addition of GH is enough. I can live with a bit of water retention and concentrate on a cut next cycle...like I said any view is welcomed I just want the maximum effect and not waste a cycle ;)

Catalyst's picture

dude is HUGE!

Not so much now, I've shrunk :( Chemo stole about 30lbs from me in 6 weeks. I'll be taking them back mind you ;)

OP if you need help setting the deca run up let me know and we'll get it tidied up.

raggo123's picture

Thanks for the replys peeps Smile it's always good to hear from experience!! Biggrin sorry about the lack of history, I've used winny and var before I had a bit of joint pain from Winny and I'm prone to a bit of gyno but that was about it, eq and tren are newbies I used deca and ended up with moon face and a bit bloated but made some good gains on it, from what I've read eq is similar but without the bloat?. I will extend the cycle to 16 weeks to gain the most from the eq and add var at the end ;) thanks for the advice with aromasin I will check it out. I know tren is a best but I've gotta try it the more I hear about it the more I want to try it! I figure might as well add it as I'm pinin Hgh each day so if I get bad sides I'll lower the dose or cut it all together rather way it's a expirence Smile thanks for the advice!!

Catalyst's picture

EQ is nothing like Deca at all.

raggo123's picture

Thanks for the reply dude, would it be better to stick to deca? it's just what I've read but you know what the internets like :/

Catalyst's picture

Honestly mate I'd need more info. What are you trying to achieve as V asked below?

Personally I don't like the cycle plan proposed at all. Let's get the goal clear then work back from there. This "lean bulk" phrase doesn't wash with me personally. If you want to bulk then bulk and chop it up afterwards.

raggo123's picture

Tbh my goals are to bulk up but without the bloat, I enjoyed the test e and deca mix on my last cycle but the bloat was crazy. From what I read eq is similar but needs to be ran longer? any opinions welcome. I am starting to think I should just bulk as much as I can then cut after now I've heard some opinions Haha I don't think anyone's a fan of this cycle!! I hear you all! ;) As as added note my diet was in check as another common thing I read is the diet causes bloat? I can speak from expirence it may be different for others but I eat oats, checkin, lean mince fish veg brown rice I can't remember the last time I ate of a plate I've got so many containers!!! it's taken years to get the food right I'll be honest about that but I'm confident it's in order. so goals are to bulk primary and strength secondary Smile

Makwa's picture

Sounds like you AI wasn't dialed in right and causing all that bloat. Were you using an anti-prolactin with that deca?

raggo123's picture

Yeah that's what I thought I think I'm just prone to it I don't get acne or hear loss so something's gotta give, I used letrozole as it was recommended it cleard the gyno within a few days and proviron...if there's something better that I should try I would jump back to deca...any one for eq or is the general feeling deca is king? I must admit in pct I shrank with the water loss but the muscle left over is very pleasing and I've keped all of it...I actually think I gained tbh!

kodiakGRRL's picture

...I actually think I gained tbh!

then you have succeded ... I find two things make deca bloat an issue... lack of ai (aromasin or arimidex) or not dialed in correctly and diet ... this isn't to say you need to restrict salt intake.. rather over restriction is more often than not the culprit when looking at diet. If you wanna bulk absolutely nothing beats test/deca cycle keep your diet clean enough and you won't have a ton of fat to take off later. I don't know why people think they can carb up while bulking and think they aren't going to gain some fat as well as muscle. smh.. it is different if you understand the consequences but people are actually surprised... I like eq also but that is for a long slow gain cyle. I save eq for the winters .. I don't have an issue carrying the water weight from deca but since my shoes don't fit I run it in the summer I prefer no shoes anyway ;-)

vhman's picture

I'm still waiting to hear what your goals are for this cycle...

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

my .02 ditch the winny. instead use your var at the tailend. cycle isnt long enough to warrant the use of EQ. either drop it or rework your cycle if you want EQ to be a main player in it. milk thistle isnt that good for liver support. TUDCA is king for liver support along with NAC. with only 5 weeks of Var at 50mg (if you ditch the winny like i suggested) alt and ast will be elevated and hdl will drop but thats not a huge dose or a really toxic compound or length of use that would absolutely require liver support but it cant hurt to be safe. so get tudca and nac. tamoxifen on cycle for what? gyno support? get some aromasin instead for on cycle support and keep running it through pct. yes, aromasin only! arimidex is no good through pct. nor letro. have a DA on hand because of the 19-nor. some people, like me, dont get prolactin sides from tren, but always have DAs on hand just in case. caber, prami or bromo. caber is my go to. get bloodwork done before, during and after cycle.

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raggo123's picture

Sorry about the brands new to this whole forum business :/ I've edited it now so hopefully it's all good ;) I'm 27 6'3 210 pounds (15stone) this will be my 4th cycle previous was deca test e prop. My goals are strength and lean bulk Smile

guitarplayer1's picture

You have ran only test and deca within 3 cycles and now you want to use tren, winny, eq and var? So if you get some fucked up side affects, which compound did it? Make sense?

Add only one new compound at a time.

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kodiakGRRL's picture

Lean comes from you diet not your compounds. Get big/Strong or get cut pick one.

Eq... your cycle isn't long enough to see the benefits of running eq .. it is just starting to do it's job and you will be ending your cycle

vhman's picture

What is your cycle history? What are your goals here?

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No source or brand names in the forums.

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