posted Fri, 02/03/2012 - 08:14
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Support Supplements While Kickstarting My Cycle
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I am getting ready to run a cycle of Test E at 500mg/week. I am going to kickstart it with dbol at around 40mg./day for 4 weeks. I was curious if anyone has used OTC stuff like Liver Juice or Cycle Support and if it was beneficial while on cycle.(Or atleast during the dbol phase). I know that it is almost religious to use cycle support while running a PH or DS cycle, but was curious if it was effective while on dbol during my kickstart. Oh and just in case...stats:
42 y.o
6'1"
196 lbs.
BF ~13%
Been lifting close to 4 yrs. now, Thanks!
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sgtstedankoWell I had it typed out for a bro already; so the hard part was done : ) thx
Thanks!
Hell yes he did! Got the dbol today, expecting the Test E Monday or Tuesday...can't wait to get this rolling!
sgtstedankoHow about the Vitamins & minerals you need everyday instead, w/milk thistle, liv-52ds added, all the way throughout & after:
A: up to 10,000 (iu) in divided doses. Best would be beta carotene
C: 3 grams (g) in divided doses {not time released version}
D: 400 (iu)
E: 1,200 iu
Thiamine{B1}: 5-10mg
Niacin{B3}: 50-100mg
Pantothenic Acid{B5}: 5mg
Pyridoxine{B6}: 5-10mg
Folic Acid: 500mcg {micrograms}
Biotin: 300-500mg
B12: 10-15mcg
K: 50-100mcg
Minerals:
Calcium: 1000-1500mg in divided doses
Phosphorus: 800-1200 mg
Magnesium: 500-750mg {Don't take w/any fiber source, as fiber impairs absorption.
Sodium: Limit sodium {ussually from table salt, cheese, seafood} try not to exceed
2000mg at the most
Potassium: 2500-400mg
Choloride: 1200-1400mg
Iron: Take 1gram of your vita c w/20-30mg of iron daily.
Zinc: 25-30mg
Copper: 2-4mg {don't take w/zinc}
Selenium: 150-200mcg
Chromium: 400-800mcg in divided doses
Iodide: 150mcg
Maganese: 15-20mg
Molybdenum: 150-200mcg
Flourine: 2-4mg
Silicon: 15-20
Vanadium: 10mg {vandate form}
Boron: 2-3mg
Tips to remember...
Take the fat soluble vita's {A, D, E, K with essential fatty acids (flax oil, is my fav)
Take C{250 at a time} & E together
Vita C should be taken 1 hour prior to, and right after exercise
Use the natural form of E, D-alpha tocopherol. Not DL
Do not take chitosan, or other fat blockers w/ fat soluble vita's{A, D, E, & K}
Beta Caratene can & should take the place of Vita A
The B vita {such as b6 and b12} should be taken before exercise
Use the niacinamide form of b3 if you get skin flush, or irritation {Don't use the slow release vers}
Take calcium with vita d. {Do not take with Magnesium}
Take more zinc {not w/copper}
Selenium is very important in helping to regulate metabolism as it supports the conversion of T4 to active T3
Great list and don't forget the vitamins for his muscles (amino acids)
Got those too...
I do throw back Opti-Men Multi in the am along with ON Fish Oil. I have zinc as well as milk thistle, hawthorn berry and saw palmetto. I'll add the selenium, never thought of that. thanks for the info...I appreciate it! I just wasn't sure if adding the support supplements would be beneficial or just a waste. I guess it's better to be safe than sorry.
sgtstedankoPers, I take my multi at night b4bed. As well as those sups throughout the day. Just keep track of the ones you can od on : )