posted Mon, 09/26/2011 - 11:53
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Super new, Super Confused
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This is my first one.
The original plan was to run:
Tren-A 100Mg 10Wks
Win Tabs 20Mg/Day 7Wks
Clomid 50Mg/ Day aft Wk11/ 3Wks
Nolva 20Mg/Day aft Wk10/3WKS
I am going for a fitness model type physique. I was told that Tren-A was a bad choice? after reading the steroids 101 post i feel like i should almost run Test-E or some type of Test with this for my first one? any inputs would work.
Right now i am at about 15%B/F 6FT 230LBS. i feel strong in the gym and i run clen right now for slimming up. Stomache is almost back to flat. had a beer belly for a little bit. I also dont like my chest its really bulky.
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You will get gains from 30mg of Var but it will not be anything dramatic. I would save the money for the Var and put it away for next summer. My cost just for the Primo and Var for the summer is $900. Its an expensive cycle but well worth the money. I am already putting a couple bucks a week away for next summer.
Good call. This has to be the hardest thing planning a cycle. Maybe since i dont have the cash really saved up right now i will only run the test like you said. I just dont want to get huge and i have a feeling thats whats gonna happen and... well im probably gonna like it lol. My body naturally just gets big when i eat and lift so with this.. well it should be amazing.
Maybe if i keep the same diet and cardio i wont become enormous and i will get the look or at least on the road to the look i am going for. I guess i also need to put some pics up eventually.
If i run at 30 MG i get 4 and 3/4 weeks out of 119$ worth of the anavar. If i go 50MG i get almost 3 weeks worth of anavar for 119$. I am not sure if its better to dose low for longer or high for shorter? what do you think?
I agree with 96 and jacob. I looked up your stats and there are none. How old are you? How long have you been training? What are weight/height/body fat%/and what are your goals. From what I have read you are confused on what you should do. I don't care what anyone says DON'T do Tren as a first cycle. That shit is by far the worst stuff you can put in your body and as a first timer stay away from it until you know how your body will react.
If you look below i modified my original cycle with your advice. I also posted my stats and goals in the original post. Is there a portion on my profile where my stats are kept? I will update that if so.
To answer the things i left out i am 25 going on 26, and i have been lifting since i was about 15ish. I have been on and off but never off for more then 4-5 months. I have been really consistent on my current training for about 6 months and i feel stuck. No gains and only slight to minimal body fat loss. My diet is down to a T and i follow it religously. Its time for the push over the top.
How much Anavar should i run in this cycle
Test-C or E 250MG Twice a week 10WKS
Anavar ?????
Arimadex .5MG/ED 14WKS
Clomid 150MG/ED WK12 100MG/ED WK13-14
Somewhere between 30mg and 80mg per day depends how much you have and how long you want to take it for. What are you hoping to achieve with the Anavar, is it mainly fat loss?
I am going for less water retention and more of a defined look with my test gains. Since its my first and this is the most easy going roid on the body i am going to go with 30MG due to the cost and run it for 5 weeks after my 5th week on the test. it should look like this:
Test-E 250MG/2xWK 10Sks
Anavar 30MG/ED After Week 5 for 5WKs
Arimadex .5MG/ED 14Wks
Clomid 150MG/ED Wk13 & 100MG/ED WK14-15
Liv52 14Wks
Milk Thistle 14Wks
Albueterol and alot of cardio Wks 15-17 then i will see where i am at when that time comes.
Looks good keep us posted on your progress!!
You can wait until week 5 to start your liv52 and milk thistle as it's only the Anavar that would effect your liver, the test won't.
That makes sense lol. Thanks for the pointer. I am sure i will be asking more to come. I am super glad i found this site.
AnonI say start off low dose (30-50mg) of Tren A ED or EOD and 250 of Test.
Work your way up with the Tren A depending on your sides (but not too high, max 75mg?)
Once a week will do. After your PCT I would start a clen cycle. On and off until June with major cardio get your bf% down. For what you are looking for Here is my summer cycle, 12 weeks with 350mg Sustanon a week divided into 2 shots.EX(Monday-Thursday). 500mg of Primobolan a week divided into 2 shots, and 60mg of Anavar a day split into 3 dosages a day. Prmo and Var are among the safest of all steroids. Here are my stats during summer-6ft 185-190lbs and 3-4%bf. 190 at @ 4% you look like a greek god
Yes, for what you are looking for stay with a low dosage like 250mg a week. If you are retaining a lot of water go to 125mg a week. The test is just to round you off and balance your hormones. If your going with the winny I would do 30 to 40mg a day broken down into 3 dosages a day(ex10mg morning 10mg afternoon 10mg night). Don't drink a lot of water, cut your carbs and fat intake and up your protein. The general rule to promote lean muscle mass you need to take in 1 and a half times your body weight in protein.
Thats a pretty harsh cycle for your first one. That's more for an experienced user. You need to find out how your body reacts to putting chemicals in it. It is possible to end up in the hospital. If you want that model built, go with a low dosage of test like 250mg and something like 50mg of Anavar. Its safer and you will know how your body reacts.For me Anavar shreds me down while winny gets me more vascular.But I am naturally lean if I get past 8%bf that's alot for me.
I am thinking of trying the Test/anavar combo. How often do you pin with test?
Depends on the ester, if it's prop then everyday or every other day, test enanthate you can do once or twice a week, test cyp once a week. Then there are blends which can have all three in.
If you don't want to inject too often then enanthate or cypionate are the ones you want.
IMO and slot of guys will tell you the same first cycle is better off to be test only test e or cyp are good choices to see how ur body reacts. But If your set on tren at least put some test in there .
Would it be just as effective to cut the tren and run Test E instead? Would the Test-E go good with the Win?
AnonAlot of people still do Tren as First cycle..
Tren is much more powerful than Test E..