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Summer Cycle/ trying something new

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I cut my cycle short the last time after 6 weeks and it's been 6 weeks of cruising

Prop 50mg eod
Tne oil base 150mg ed 1hr before workout 1-12
Npp 100 mg eod 1-12
Mast p 100mg eod 1- 12
Superdrol 20mg 1-6 weeks each day split 10mg morning/before workout
Clen start off 40mcg and work my way up. 2 weeks on/2 weeks off.
I will up it if necessary

Aromasin 12.5 m/w/f
I don't think I will really need that much aro

Carb cycling
3 days on 100g carbs 300g protein everyday
4th and 5th day 150g carbs

Lift hour a day/30-45 min cardio

Yes I know a lot of pinning I have plenty of spots for it

Thank you for the criticism and feed back

irongame427's picture

I like it, I've wanted to run npp cutting cycle forever now and adding mast is the perfect addition. Npp as you probably know keeps you looking nice and full, with a good diet good choice of carbs and the low test plus the mast you should stay nice and dry throughout. Not stepping on stage dry but dry enough for people to say holy shit. Tne really doesn't effect me in the way people describe. Never had any estro problems with it. The oil based shit really doesn't hit like water based does the oil slows down the absorbtion so it's gradual imo vs water based you feel like kick that dose basicallg hit you all at once but the oil based has a slower release I don't have an numbers but I'd guess it all gets absorbed over a few hours so maybe you're getting 25mgs and that's not all at once that's slowly over an hour. Again no hard numbers maybe it's more maybe less. I like it pre workout i get some good pumps but it doesn't wake me up or anything hell there's been many times I pin it after work usually 1.5hrs pre and fall asleep. But I also like it for the huge increase in protein synthesis it's gonna cause so the meals after will be that much more effective. Mostly just for lagging body parts though. I get a much better pre workout in terms of focus intensity not wanting to leave etc with 12.5mgs of ephedrine and a caffeine pill. But that won't give me the pumps tne will. Only thing is superdrol makes ne feel like crap and it's been shown to exert the majority of its effects the first 3-4 weeks. After that little to no more lbm gain, but like npp it makes you like crazy full. But it does destroy ones lipid profile in less then 2 weeks. I always planned to run var the last 6 weeks with npp mast or even winny since the npp will help the joints but I could only do 4 with winny. I'd personally run var the last 6 vs an oral as a kicker. Or if you really like Superdrol save it for the end. I always wanna finish up a cutter looking my best and adding an oral to really polish everything off Is gonna benefit me more then running it at the start of the cycle when I'm further from my goal. Sdrol might be the exception as it could put on some lbm ran as a kicker that you just won't get running it at the end. I've used it as a kicker and a finisher and things like dbol etc and they don't have the same effect at the end like they do as a kicker. But things like var and winny work great as the goal isn't to gain a bunch of muscle just to polish everything off harder up further bring out vascularity more etc.

Bulkdaddy's picture

I know y'all didn't read it but I'm adding 50mg test P and 100mg tne preworkout. I changed it up. I was just curious before I started what everyone's input was since it doesn't supposedly convert.

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Makwa's picture

To maximize the effectiveness of a cycle you need to be concerned about half lives. The way you are running the tne is not optimum. That is a pretty good slug of tne and you will likely have one hell of crash afterwards. Need multiple pins if running straight test. When you feel the crash is a good signal you need to pin again. Ultimately you want to time it so you get a pin in before you feel the crash. You would be much better off splitting that dose into 3x/d pins. Can you pin it all in 1 dose, sure you can. Is it the best way to run tne as a base.......no.

Bulkdaddy's picture

Thank you for the clarity and explaining that for me. Makes a lot of since...

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Bulkdaddy's picture

I know you like long esters but at the same time I'm trying to shred and I will hold water if I run long esters. I've ran clen plenty of times and love it. Is it bad for your heart? Sure if you abuse it... It will be my first time running superdrol which is why I'm running it really low. I have a friend that gave me his because of nose bleeds and HBP.... Thanks my friend. I did re arrange the cycle and added prop...

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Bulkdaddy's picture

Other than that I did post it for help because I was wanting opinions. I obviously added in prop to make bloods stable. I wanted everyone's opinion on cycling with tne. I sure asf am no pinning 3 times a day so I added in prop...

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Bulkdaddy's picture

Dang already jumping to conclusions that I started it! Lol.. Well you are right and I added the prop in today. As far as spiking estros I'm actually feeling tighter already. My diet is on point! I feel great! Just having a hard time sleeping. I took some ZZZ quill shit doesn't budge me. As long as I have something to control the retro spike I should be fine! Which I started the aromasin everyday.

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CustyDog's picture

Try unisom for sleep aid.

Bulkdaddy's picture

Awesome I will thank you!

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Makwa's picture

SD is a carb whore. Your carbs are too low to really take advantage of the SD. Not getting the most out of it running it with low carbs but you will still get the nasty sides from it. Feed it the carbs it deserves if you are going to run it.

Bulkdaddy's picture

I take it in the morning when I eat about 50g of carbs and pre workout when I have about the same in white rice! The only time I have carbs through out the day.

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TheFlash85's picture

Test with a nandro and a dht is enough. Fuck the sd off fuck the clen off. Tne once a day fucking pointless except for the pwo effect. Aromasin dosing is shit. Half life of drugs is key. You say below about " competing " if so you would have a better idea and wouldnt need co- signing. I would have a steady base of test in there wether thats longer esther or atleast prop ( unless you are continuing trt test throughout). How many comps and how long competing?

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It says trying something new on title. I have seen other guys run this with great results. I've done 3 comps 2 last year and 1 before. Last year I sat around 3% bf stepping on stage... :)... I like TNE... I really don't even need that much AI because nothing I'm taking aromitizes. Am I right or wrong except maybe the superdrol? I will lower the dose of tne and add in prop eod 50mg

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TheFlash85's picture

Just remember the wording i use " activate " that doesnt automatcally mean levels raise it could mean supress or multiple things. Pgr/ plr/ er, different passages, signals, pathways and interractions, waiting on genius below to school us though. And yes, dont forget masts ae affects. That why i said the aro dosing is shit besides the time lapse- half lives need to be overlapped for full stable benefits. Just have you ai on hand and read your body use if and when needed. Stick to ur test/ dht/ nandro. Im not giving clen the nod. Sd is your choice but its over rated and 20mgs a day in that stack will be fairly unnoticable.

TheFlash85's picture

Sd doesnt aromatise but it does activate/ aggravate pgr and will cause gyno. Low dose caber prevents it. 20 mgs a day isnt worth the bs especially as you have mast anyway.

Bulkdaddy's picture

Yes it all makes perfect since to me. The only thing I was taking the superdrol I figured it would keep me pretty much full and not flat looking on my low carb days..

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waterhead235's picture

Caber does not effect progesterone levels so please clarify your bro science.

TheFlash85's picture

Bro science? ?? Go research yaself, a group of us on here done studies and guinea pig work with multiple compounds when we made the gyno protocol the same way. Simple- sd you should run low dose caber. Just like the anadrol- does that aromatise? You can go google and read steroids r us or what ever the fuck but you tell me the answer? And whilst you try and google that answer come back with the answer as to why people get gyno with it???? Same as fuckn sd mate- and you better come at me with something good because this area is one of my specialties i can type a page of data just of the top of my head, after your smart cunt comment you better be good or ill neg ya because i know im right.

waterhead235's picture

I stated a medical fact, cunt. Show me one shred of proof to discredit me, you can't.

TheFlash85's picture
    1. Couldnt back your mouth up just as i predicted. Walk the walk instead of talking the talk. Good luck in future. I wont respond to you again.
pege's picture

i dont see stats and cycle history , i see goal.i guess cutting.

pege's picture

thankyou they should be here also along with your cycle. ...vut thankyou no e the less , now this is my opion. running tne , imo. to hold stable blood levels i would pin at a minimum of every 12 hours. preferably every 8. to be honest. ...
like i said knowing the half life. , it seems to me like this would create a roller coaster.effect. ..
now im asking , for my knowledge. i have done a shot of tne but never cycled it. let me know

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I will brother. I understand where you are coming from. I'm running it to experiment since it doesn't convert... when I do run it during a cycle for pre workout I know I gain a shit ton of size!

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pege's picture

well i did a little digging and it seems. the half life is questionable. any where from 4 to 24 hour. so if i and i say if i were to cycle tne id pin every 8 hours to hold stable blood levels. ... but at a minium. if i was you id pin 2 x a day. i run shorts and i pin ed. but this is a little to much pinning for me. .good luck

Bulkdaddy's picture

18hours is the half life from what I gathered for tne oil base

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pege's picture

personally id still pin 3x ed. , well #1 i wouldnt cycle tne. .. but imo 3x a day to keep stable bloods to much money and to much pinning. ..

Bulkdaddy's picture

I think there in the advance cycle or comp prep

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TrenAllDay's picture

im assuming this is a cut from how low the carbs are.. i think the clen, npp, superdrol are all unnecessary

i would switch out tne with prop

test/mast and your proposed macros, although idk the fats,is enough for a cut, you dont need all those other compounds

Bulkdaddy's picture

I respect your opinion but to get the hardness I'm looking for I think it is... Test only you don't get the hardness I'm looking for. The clen is nesscessaey for the bf I'm looking for which is around 5-8%.... I'm looking for the dry hard grainy look.

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TrenAllDay's picture

This for competition? Can't typically just chill everyday at 5-8%, the dry grainy look comes with dehydration which isn't so "healthy"

Bulkdaddy's picture

Depending on how I feel this year. Typically I don't say wether I'm going too or not until about 6 weeks out or pick a comp. I'll already be lean and I'll carb up some then drop my carbs back down if I need to and I'll have a great shape. I may do one hell maybe more... I drop that low every summer so that way I'll stay ripped no matter what I eat most of the summer and be able to enjoy myself....No one typically sees me until then because I'm working on myself...

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