posted Tue, 01/30/2018 - 18:52
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I’ve been taking Testerone Cypionate for a bit now. I want to switch it up. I’m interested in using something like Deca. I’d like to get some strength, but keep my size down as well. I don’t want to develop a lot of bulk. I definitely want to keep the water retention way down as well stay away from possibly developing Gynecomastia or having my prostate enlarged. Growing male breasts or developing an enlarged prostate scares the crap out of me! Lol. I’m definitely open to what yall suggest as to what I should look into as a cycle. Since I’d be new to doing a cycle I’d like to ease into it. I’ve only taken Testerone before. Cypionate, Propionate, Enanthate. I’d like to do a short cycle, like a 12 week cycle.
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Thanks guys. I really do appreciate yalls feed back. Man, I’m too embarrassed to really talk about this now lol. I’ve been researching and I have a better understanding now. I’ve been taking test cyp around 8 months now. I just took my last bit Saturday. I was taking between 600mg to 800mg a week. I worked my way up from 200mg to 400mg to what I’m at now. Like I said earlier about taking other tests like cyp, prop and Enanthate. I’d take them for a bit but I’d eventually run out. I’ve never taken a PCT before. I feel very lucky though! I never developed any male breasts. I don’t plan on it neither. I’ve never been consistent. Maybe that’s been the problem, right?. This is the longest I’ve taken it before. I’ve had a lot of injuries over the years from sports. I guess why I’ve taken this test cyp for so long now is/was b/c my right leg was weak. Quad, hammy, calf, glut and all those small muscles in my foot.. I’m almost where I want to be finally with the strength in my leg. I’ve tried to push myself. I don’t see myself as being lazy. Just frustrated, that’s all..
So do y’all believe I should order some PCT and run that for 4 weeks? Then start a cycle? Or would it be cool to order;
Test Prop: 12 weeks 500mg per week
Dbol: 6 weeks 25mg per day
Arimidex: 12 weeks 0.5mg every other day or increase to 1mg if need be
Week 13 & 14: do nothing
week 15 & 16: 40mg Nolvadex perday
Week 17 & 18: 20mg Nolvadex perday
At end of week 18 continue working out but I’m off everything.
RustyhookerYoure....
A-a troll
Or
B--- an idiot.
Pick one...
B
No don’t order shit. Take a break see your doctor eat a damn samdwich. If your on trt just do trt. You shouldn’t need to pct if you are on trt because you control the baseline get blood work. You have been cycling if you have played with prop and cyp or anything else. Food. See the doctor. Donate blood. Get blood test wait a bit. If your self prescribed trt dose has been at 500mg for 8 months then your just fucking yourself up. Slow it down. Yes the dr cost money I know just spent 750 bucks to see him and get blood work done to see where I am. And be honest with him on what you have been doing
C'mon man. You;ve been on a blast for 8 months and you think a little 4wk PCT is going to save you and you want to start up another cycle. Can't get much crazier than that. Damage has aready been done. Time for a visit to the Doc.
You’ve been on a full blown cycle for 8 months. Give your body and your heart a break. I’m sure your blood is sludge right now. Time on = time off, so you should plan on not doing anything above a trt dose for many months.
Why did the doc give you trt? If there were legit medical reasons, a pct provably won do much unless it’s more aggressive than normal. I’m not going to say you can’t recover naturally, and it’s always worth a try. Just be prepared.
You should definitely consider revisiting your doctor. I’m going to assume you haven’t pulled any bloods during this time. Take your health seriously. No one else will. Not busting your balls. We’re all just trying to look out for each other.
You can definitely still push for the goals you’ve stated on normal test levels, and continue to gain through work and diet.
A few last questions; I thought I should get me some liquid oral Nolvadex 40mg to be on the safe side as well as some Cialis just in case my D don’t want to act right after all of this... what do you think about HGH?
Good idea. You’re definitely right. I do need to give my body a break. I went to the Dr. To see what is was all about to get perscribed test. I took Testerone before I ever went to the Dr. I’ve had my blood checked. It’s been fine. Nothing to worry about. So I should wait for 8 months to do anything again?
What does your diet and routine look like?
Self medicating is dangerous territory. Unless you’re running bloods around every 90 days, you don’t know what’s going on.
What doses are you taking and for how long?
basskiller89You are clueless brother lol
Water retention is largely due to estrogen levels. Gyno is a result of having your E levels high enough to the point where you aromatize and start to grow gland tissue. An AI along with blood work will keep your E levels in normal physiological ranges which prevents excess water retention and gyno. An enlarged prostate is largely due to elevated levels of DHT. In addition to an enlarged prostate, hair loss and acne are two more side effects associated with high DHT. It is easy to control DHT levels, again within normal physiological ranges, by using the appropriate ancillaries. A basic test only cycle is way more than enough for anything you could looking to achieve. You do not need to add other compounds. We all have to start somewhere. I hope you continue to research and ask questions until you have a better understanding of what these hormones are going to do to your body brother
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basskiller89I'm saving up my KMC rewards points for the free protein cookie
Do some research brother every member has access to the forums and Google is a click away. And if you don't want to put on alot of bulk then why Deca?
If your on trt up the dose a bit and get your diet on point and lift hard and heavy.
Steroids do amazing things but they don't make up for lazyness, you gotta push yourself to be strong.
Hello Sir,
I assume you are on TRT then considering the fact that Doc has prescribed the hormone to you?
For us to suggest anything we would need to know how much knowledge and experience you have.
We would need more information about you - you previous experience with PEDs (if any), your workout experience and achievements, nutrition plan etc.
B/F by the way is Body Fat percentage.
One thing I can suggest right away from what I have read, please do not touch Deca Sir, you will more likely have all them side effects you described above.
Regards
If this is your first cycle you need to treat as such and run testosterone only. It doesnt sound like you have a grasp on this at all. Do a ton of research, get blood work done, get your diet in check and then think about maybe running a test only. If you dont want to bulk up just stick to your trt and eat right.
Sounds like you need to research. You’re lost bro. How about updating your bf% and explaining why you’ve been taking Test Cyp for a while. Is this trt? Doc or self prescribed? Or is this just a cycle you’ve been on for a while and now the gains are slowing?
I don’t know what my bf% is. I was prescribed test cyp, but I didn’t like paying a Dr. a lot of money, b/c I assumed I could do this myself. You’re right. I’m a lil lost.
And then
Okay,.......... stop the FUCKING BULL SHIT, at your age, no doctor will start you out at 200mg/week.
Shortly, you will have total screwed your body to the point that the only available option is a sex change operation.
So forget about AI's, embrace the gyno,.......... go big or go home.
I have a problem of jumping around a lot when describing things. I believe he started me out at 100mg or 150mg. That didn’t feel like it was enough. I didn’t really feel any different. So that’s why I started doing it myself. I needed something that would seriously help with getting my leg stronger. I was past desperation. I guess I didn’t really give a fuck. I hope I haven’t screwed my body up. It doesn’t feel screwed up. I don’t have bitch tits. I put on a lil unnecessary weight. I was kind of loosing hope. I never thought about coming in here to ask questions until now. Finally though, I feel like I’ve got my leg somewhat caught up with my other leg. Trust me! I feel stupid as shit sharing all of this! Lmao! I could go into a whole sappy ass story of shit, but I ant tho. Homie don’t play dat! I appreciate the reply. You definitely set me straight about jumping around everywhere telling my story.