Stacking situation, need advise
Ok, so here's the scoop. About 8 weeks ago I started a DBol, TBol, Win, Clen cycle. I was going to do a 12 wk cycle an overlap each one by 2 to 3 weeks an finish with a Win/Clen cycle for the last 4 weeks. Well just prior to beginning the cycle,I tweaked my right shoulder a bit but disregarded it since it seemed like a minor muscle strain at the time; I started the cycle as planned. I finished a 6 wk cycle of Dbol with a 2 week overlap w/ Tbol. I originally intended to take a 2 week break due to a vacation before resuming with Tbol, Win; rest for the liver too. I thought this minor shoulder pain (full range of motion with only minor pain when doing a specific movement...nothing that would prevent me from lifting still) would go away after resting for 2 weeks. It's gotten better but not 100%. So here's the deal...I'm not going to resume the rest of my originally planned cycle and going to stick w/ Cardio instead of weights until Jan 1. I'm going to use this time to hopefully shed at least 5% BF (at about 17% now) after my initial Db/Tb cycle. I gained a lot of strength and about 10lbs of fairly lean muscle; I don't want to loose the mass entirely and would like to keep 7 pounds of it.
The question is: What gear would be best to use for leaning out without hitting the weights until the shoulder returns to normal? I was thinking a Clom and Clen cycle for no more than 6 weeks. Should I be thinking about including Win or An in this cycle for better muscle mass retention? Would include Win or An be a moot point since I won't be lifting?
Sorry for the lengthy post but hoping will get some good advise.
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AnonMost will store fine in room temp..keep it outta direct sunlight and you'll be golden...as for shoulder injuries; I just had surgery. DONT FUCK YOUR SHOULDER UP, not worth it bro.
Thanks,a buddy of mine that has been been on test c said it needed to be stored in a fridge and have read several posts on other forums saying the same. I'll be picking some up soon. Unfortunately, if it needed to be stored in a fridge, the cooler route wouldn't work either due to frequent work related travel.
Thanks again for the responses to the thread!
Thanks for the recommendations. I had done fairly extensive reading/research on the gear I chose before ordering. Unfortunately I don't have a way to discretely store test or other liquids in a fridge which is why I didn't run liquid.
I ran db for 4 weeks at 30mg/day and believed this was effective without significant or permanent risk. Ran db for 4 weeks to jump start, tb for 4 weeks to continue the gains (I've read tbol toxicity is low and is an effective oral and can follow a db cycle). I've also been on novla and milk thistle during the cycle and still on. After tb, was going to finish w/ winn/clen for cutting and do 6 wks pct. I had blood work done recently and everything is normal except very slightly elevated cholesterol which the Dr. wasn't worried about. My goal wasn't to start one type of cycle and switch. I worked extremely hard as I always have and don't want to loose it what I gained in 6 weeks (the strength and composition gains were great) because I have an unplanned switch to cardio for a few weeks to rest a shoulder muscle (soreness started before the gear). I was only seeking some advise on if I should even think about switching my cycle up given the circumstances but am not going to now based on information everyone has shared.
I'm 35, have been lifting, eating right, and active in sports since high school (except for college years but still played rugby to stay in shape). I'm fairly new to gear now that it is becoming harder to obtain quality gains like I used to. This is my 3rd cycle in 2 years; the first was beginner oral cycles (bulking/cuting) spread several months apart) that I purchased as "package" through one of the reputable retailers. Was in maintenance mode 2 days a week for about 6 months due to having a baby and did a 2nd cycle (same as first) when I got back to a 4 day/wk routine. All of the cycles were effective and blood work and natural test were normal after pct. I've also managed to maintain most of those gains. This is my 3rd cycle and thought I'd try something a different/intermediate.
Probably a diff thread entirely but what, if any, is a good oral bulking stack w/ db? Using liquid test is very difficult without being able to discretely store in a fridge. I know using test along w/ db and other gear will yield the best results.
Avoid milk thistle, use Liv52 instead. Cheap as balls on Amazon.
Come off completely with a proper PCT. Research, , research some more, purchase and regroup. By stopping now yo ucould be ready for a proper cycle restart by mid-February. Di you have blood work done before the cycle?
Why no injectables?
Dang bro your all over the place her. Looks like you did no reserch pree cycle. Dare i ask for your age? Do as hboy says and run a pct and most importantly stay off any AAS.
Bro, uhhhm, i'm speechless... i don't even know where to begin... wheres the test? u intended on taking a 2wk rest for a vacation and rest the liver? ur looking for a compound that will allow u to keep ur gains without the effort? and u just want to switch gear to clom and clen or winn and an?
you're dangerous bro... my suggestion is to bang out some hcg then hit a nolva/clom pct with the hopEs that u didn't hurt urself and then... RESEARCH!RESEARCH!RESEARCH!
Thats exactly what I was thinking...Lmfao
Nasty81NateH you hit the nail on the head! That's one of the most ridiculous cycles I've ever seen. So many people don't get that Test should be the foundation of ALL cycles. It's such a simple concept that's been repeated a 100 million times across the Internet!
One thing to note on my original post is that I've been running Nolvadex and MilkThistle along w/ my cycle.