Smack the Newbie
Well, I'm new here. Can you believe it?
I've read a 1,000 times that a Test E only first cycle is recommended. So naturally, I'm looking at that as a possibility.
600/wk Test E
(3 wks) PCT Clomid 200/100/100/50
Now for the part that will make the vets want to smack me. I'm not looking to get into AAS more than once. I want a first and only (never again) cycle. A guy who seems knowledgeable has told me I should run Deca with it (he says it'll help with joints and get more size-being as I don't want to cycle again). He initially said I should kick-start with Oxy, but after reading the effects...I told him I wasn't willing to do that (am I wrong?)...
Friends recommended cycle:
500/wk Test E
250/wk Deca
(3 wks) PCT Clomid 200/100/100/50
for either cycle I'll have Adex on hand just in case. I'm 6'4 and 250 lbs. I eat a clean <4000 Kcal with 450g~ of protein a day.
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whats the point of just one cycle? after u come off your cycle u will go back to normal and it will actually be worse because u messed up your test levels
Ya know what I came thru here a few days ago, and wasn't even really paying attention to what was really going on here. There is NO point to just one cycle like you said. The way I understood everything when I started doing this, is that running some gear turns into lifetime of on and off cycles. Why not though?...it basically turns out to be 2 cycles a year anyway between on time followed by CORRECT off time. You do the math and that's the 'healthiest' way to run cycles. Might as well just keep doing it.
Bro thats a slippery slope, do you think your gonna put on 30lbs in 12 wks, feel amazing and break Pr's every week and.... not wanna do it again. i dont think so. im only on my first cyle but i know ill do more. notting wrong woth doing a cycle or two a year if your smart about it ;).
naguib123ur guna do it more than once lol.
AnonHoly shit if I had a nickle for every time I heard someone say "I'm only going to do it once" I'd be a millionare.
AAS are more addictive than crack cocaine. Not physically but mentally you'll fean to be on cycle.
I don't have an addictive personality at all but I am an AAS addict and proud of it.
That being said, Oxy could mean more than just one drug but I assume you means anadrol.
It's a first cycle, so keep it simple, 350-500mg test e/wk. I don't believe 500mg is necessary for a first cycle but it won't hurt.
Good luck, see you again 8-10wks after PCT
theres a term for people running one cycle. TRT.
Lmao! X2 brother... the dark side is a mystical place... i remember i said ONCE! that was 35yrs ago lol... oh well maybe just one more run after this one... MAYBE!
tread-m1-12 Test E 500mg split
Aromasin @ quarter tab eod (6.25) we can change up or down if/when needed
Hcg if desired ask me for protocol and happy to help mix etc
Begin pct 2 weeks after last pin clomid 100/50/50/50. Nolva 40/40/20/20
If you don't have a builders diet ask us for one, its the whole deal yr round and if you can't commit to it then gear is worthless brother. Have letro on hand in case gyno pops up beyond what aromasin can control. Take saw pallmetto daily from now on , fish oil from now on and glucosamine chondroitin from now on as well as your other daily supps. get the deca off your mind, if you have gyno from test at the estro level being prone and then at the prolactin level from the pituitary being prone and running the 19 nor deca and no caber on hand you'll be in a shitstorm O trouble! This is one reason its one at a time brother, this is not GNC, this shit will screw you up in a big way. Learn it slow , learn it right and its all healthy and productive. Any questions here or PM we're glad to help.
Alright, so I thought I'd run from it. I'm back doing more research and I want to take you up on some of your offers. One, is the builders diet - you say you can help with that, I'll listen if you're willing to share one with me. I'm also interested in the HCG, can you tell me more about it, and what I need to do with it?
So for a 1st cycle we're talking:
12 Wk's Test E -- 250 mg Mon. --- 250 mg Fri.
Aromasin 6.25 Mon. Wed. Fri. Sun?
PCT:
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
On hand: Letro,
New sups: Pallmetto, Fish Oil, Glucosamine Chondroitin
Thanks man. I think maybe I'll just work for more natural gains for awhile then based on the information your giving me here. I think maybe I'm just not ready to mess with stuff quite this serious yet. I appreciate the info.
25 yrs old.
tread-mAdex on hand will be more than just in case we will use it for estro/shbg control. Letro on hand just in case. I didn't see age I don't think so lets reveal that and get this TEST ONLY cycle laid out for you. You don't know it yet but I do, once you cycle its in your blood , you will be back. Don't debate it with me I don't want to hear it. I ran my first and only cycle about 40 cycles ago Nooka!!! Lol
yup, anyone who says aas isnt addictive is full of shit, once you see the gains you want more and more and more........ listen to tread, a test only cycle will give you great gains and then you can explore other compounds, i learned that the hard way, my first cycle was test e 500/wk, and deca 250/wk. long story short i got lumps in my nips and enough milk to lactate a baby cow.