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Running first cycle (TestE lower dose cruising?)

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Hello everyone!

I soon want to run my first cycle containing only Testosterone Enanthate (and PCT ofc.).
I always read about the weekly 500mg split for 10 weeks, but is that really the best approach?
I really like the concept of cruising (even though that's not for everyone, especially on your first cycle), so is it possible to maybe have a TestE cycle (300mg split) for 14-18 weeks for the first cycle?
My goal isn't to get 110kg big, so a smaller dosis would work just fine for me, I suppose?

Have a good one guys

Hitman1992's picture

Idk why my karma dropped down without violating any policy of eroids if I did the poster has done first you guys should’ve removed his post or you guys don’t allow anyone to discuss cycling “talking about karma” lol

Hitman1992's picture

Why all the attitude man you said no cosigners and I apologized for that and I wasn’t consigning at all I was just saying my own experience I did not say guaranteed you’ll be fine or anything like that anyway I’m just saying he is violating eroid policy why are you allowed someone who’s and no karma taken from him and other you’ll take you have to be fair my apologies again if just bothering you with this Biggrin

Hitman1992's picture

You’re the best man keep up the good work!

Moorky's picture

I'm honestly not putting my expectations too high, all I want is to reach like 90kg with ~7% BF which seems impossible for me naturally, since I've been bulking now for many years and now after this huge cut I'm only at 83kgs. Therefore 300mg should do the trick, I think?

Hitman1992's picture

Lol hahahah Idk why I start laughing when I saw your reply “500 mg brother “

The Impastable's picture

You like the concept of cruising at 24? Really?

Moorky's picture

I never said that. Dunno why people interpret so much stuff in my thread

Moorky's picture

Yes exactly, I said I really like the concept of cruising. I DID NOT say I like cruising at the age of 24. That's what I meant with interpreting things wrong. Even in the sentence you quoted I said "even though that's not for everyone, especially on your first cycle" followed by my compromise to just do a longer cycle you should get the message, that I DO NOT intend to cruise anytime soon.

The Impastable's picture

And that is exactly my problem with the OP... first cycle and already looking to push it to 18 weeks possibly... by the time it hits week 18, he won’t be coming off and will be looking to lower the dose and run it indefinitely.

Moorky's picture

Of course I want mass. And again, interpreting things wrong. Just take my OP as it is without adding things that I MIGHT mean by that. I just don't want to go limitless with steriods. I have my limits and I have a goal, I just want to reach that goal and nothing more.

Moorky's picture

First of all, I said I don't wanna weight 242lbs. I thought this forum is there to be informative and helpful (which some people here really were and I appreciate it), and by "informative and helpful" I'm not talking about being supportive!! Just want to get that out there because I know someone will try to interpret some stuff wrong again and I know nobody should encourage someone to take steroids. I already talked about my goals in the comments and I will not post pictures of me, my body or my surroundings on this website. That choice should be respected.

The Impastable's picture

That choice will be respected. But you have to understand something.

It’s spring, so all the chucklefuck groundhogs are poking out of their basements ready to spend a college tuition on gear just to be able to have a 6 pack for the beach this summer. Most of these sudowoodo looking fucks fall into one of three categories:

  1. Under 25
  2. Has no base built for AAS usage, no diet regimen, and no training regimen for AAS usage
  3. Dumber than tits on a bull and an ego bigger than whale dick

Neither of those 3 categories will receive any help from eRoids members because we dont offer advice to those simply looking to harm themselves more than they benefit from AAS usage.

The members here are generally informative and helpful, but that doesn’t mean it’s a fucking free for all - there’s plenty other forums out there where co-signing cycles for tweeny-toddlers is widely accepted. We are all jaded as fuck, and given that this thread smells like every single one out there looking for a quick fix, you can understand why you’re not getting anything out of it and why members are asking for a bit more proof.

You’re young, you can either post up pics, lay out your goals in detail, post up your diet for help, etc. etc. and you might just get the info you’re looking for, even if that info has nothing to do with AAS usage.

I hope you stick around and understand why we do things a certain way around here, and hopefully get some good advice to help you meet your goals. Choice is yours really, good luck.

Drock_357's picture

Well said! This should be on page 1 of the eroids sign up sheet!

Moorky's picture

Yeah I get that. I got some helpful information out of this thread so I think I'm good for now.

It's just weird to see how people here just interpret things how they want it to be, instead of taking it as it is. Therefore it seems kinda pointless to me, to lay out all the info.

Also, you might have noticed, that I'm not from the USA. We don't have spring break or something like that. I'm doing my masters degree right now and bodybuilding as my passion, so there's not even time to waste on partying or something like that.

The Impastable's picture

It's just weird to see how people here just interpret things how they want it to be, instead of taking it as it is. Therefore it seems kinda pointless to me, to lay out all the info.

It’s not interpreting it how we want it to be, it’s taking it for face value. You can’t create a first post and mention cruising in the title, as well as in the actual post, and then say it’s not meant to be interpreted that way. That’s exactly how context works.

You can’t say you want to burn a house down, you like the idea of burning homes down, and then act surprised and complain when the investigator comes knocking when a home burns down. Ya dig?

Anyhow, like I said, you’ll get used to the place. You’ll figure us out and blend right in so long as that’s what you want. Good luck bubba!

IrishMack's picture

Several requests for pix and still a side shift.....Gotta either be a troll or 120 pound 18 year old at 6 foot .

The Impastable's picture

You literally have it written in your OP my dude...

MedDx's picture

You've got plenty of time to learn what you need to do when the time is right...keep on diggin' and post up a food, workout and cycle plan.

When do you turn 25?

Moorky's picture

In 4 months

IrishWOLFhound's picture

I really like the concept of cruising (even though that's not for everyone, especially on your first cycle

If I did a 12 week 500mg test cycle and then used 150mg test for 12 weeks and then up the dose to 500mg after another 12 weeks and then back to 150mg , thats a cruise . 300mg is too high for cruising , that's basically a cycle . Your only 24 so I don't recommend steroids , sorry .

Moorky's picture

I would only cruise around 150mg if I ever tired it. The 300mg was meant for a 18 week cycle

Keepmovingforward's picture

It’s pointless man your goals can be reached without it. You’re going to end up with your back covered in zits and could speed up hair loss if you are prone to those things. At 24 your body is producing enough testosterone it’s your diet that you need to dial in. The only reason people are telling you not to run it is because many of us have made mistakes in the past and have learned from them.

ChickenBirdOfGains's picture

Stats
Age: 24
Height: 175cm
Weight: 83kg
BF: 7%

Have you had your natural Testosterone Levels checked yet? Chances are your natural Test is still probably pretty high.

Moorky's picture

The BFP is only so low because I've had a huge cut recently, normally it's around 10-12%.

Edit: But no, I haven't checked my testosterone levels yet

ChickenBirdOfGains's picture

Have your natural Testosterone Levels checked, you might be surprised where your levels are at.

shredski's picture

Hey bro welcome. If you're anything like me your mind is set and you plan on running this cycle regardless of what we day on here. So with that I just want to share my experience with you.

I was 24 had ran a bunch of prohormones and a few oral cycles before I found eroids. I came on here posting a cycle something like test/tren/var for my first cycle. The vets here tried to steer me away completely from any AAS because of my age, they also told me that I should do my research about what I was planning to put in my body. The only thing I really took away from the vets was to stick to test only as a first cycle (I didn't wait until I was older)

Now I'm 29 did a bunch of research, ran a few cycles, and now I found myself with low-t, dick not working, depression, all of which led me to numerous Dr visits, blood work, ultrasounds, MRIs. All of which ultimately led me to TRT.

So if you can learn anything from my situation just do your research. Look at what you can potentially do to your body. Look up the negative side effects. And ultimately just get your training and diet perfect, because you'd be surprised with what you can gain naturally.

Steroids aren't that magic pill that solve all your problems. For me ultimately caused my problems. I'm gonna have to pin the rest of my life just so my dick works and I don't wanna blow my brains out.

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Hitman1992's picture

My first cycle was when I’m 22 years old and I don’t have low t
I’m not encouraging him to do a cycle or do not do a cycle
It’s his body and his choice because his mind already set we all here trying to help each other
I know one of the guys at my gym he is 41 now when he was 17 his coach put him on var he is low t now his var cause him that not proper cycle

Hitman1992's picture

My apologies if I broke any rules:)

giardap's picture

his var cause him that not proper cycle

A suppressive steroid is.... a suppressive steroid. A cycle is... the steroud run for a duration.
Dont minimise what that man's coach did to him as a child.

Hitman1992's picture

I’m not minimizing what coach did it’s the coach fault he wouldn’t touch it without his unknowledge coach
I was just trying to say proper cycle to 24 it wouldn’t shut him down forever

giardap's picture

Unless he has a pre existing condition... like sub clinical hypogonadism or something else waiting in the wings.... who knows.

We are all different... I wish we were not and wish there were hard-fast rules that apply to us all, you know... "take this and you will be grand!"... but it doesnt work that way.

Thats why giving our subjective experiences to an underage (brain hasnt finished developing, particularly frontal part responsible for decisions and risk) and saying its his body his risk/his mind is made up.... is totally irresponsible.

Im not bashing you over this at all, it's just that we cannot co-sign certain things. Health first approach.... Longevity and sustainability of our health and our lives has to take priority, regardless of what others got away with over the year!

Hitman1992's picture

With all due respect to you this is just a newbie talk
"take this and you will be grand!" I know everyone’s different to other
I said “ his body and his choice” because he won’t listen whatever we’re going to say to him
I didn’t co-sign on anything by saying that I was just trying to make things better than worst
I totally agree with you our health is top priority
I know you’re not bashing me or anything like that
I appreciate your feedback all way up Biggrin

giardap's picture

Well i hope he doesnt listen to you. Dont try to placate people fella, you absolutely HAVE cosigned here so do not try pretend you didnt.... accept it and move on. What you have suggested is irresponsible and potentially damaging....

Co-signing of an underage cycle, co-signing bridging into 2nd inmediate cycle..... ultimately you are giving the thumbs up to a 6 month + cycle:

Hitman1992 1 day ago.........300mg test for first cycle is spot on it’s worth it for 10-12 weeks then at 14 you start your pct 4 weeks so totall 10-12 test running if 10 at 12 weeks you start your pct until week 16 if 12 weeks then You start your pct at 14 weeks until 18 and you’ll notice how you recover you don’t need cruise if you want to cruise I say do bridging with HGH and back on cycle after two month or one month of GH the whole point of cruising is not to come out of cycle

Hitman1992's picture

You couldn’t prove me wrong broscienceso or at 5 years level please take your newbie quote somewhere else not around me
After reading this in your bio
“correctly, timed correctly and long enough to do the business). Zero ai usage and zero caber coz ya dont actually need em to cycle effectively”
I think you are right because your E2 high af
case close I’m moving on
Peace

giardap's picture

Incorrect. Educate yourself. -1

Hitman1992's picture

I don’t really care about karma even if you make me a troll but you just a newbie and accept the fact keep up with let my karma down newbie hahahaha