Proposed winter lean bulker
This is me at the moment
Age 39
BF 12.4%
BW 88.25kg
Ideal would be to reach 100kg with 10% BF
I train 5 days a week using a variety of methods 5x5, Strongman circuits, Strength training and hiit style circuits. Training is good at the moment, diet is good.
I'm in talks with a local boxing gym to expand the functional training aspect of the gym, so Im looking to increase my athletic capability.
I'm not on cycle at the moment. Last cycle was a year ago Test E at 600p/w with a var 50ed the last 4 weeks. This was 14 weeks in length. Ive run 4 cycles in total. My first being when I was a young 20yr old(I know, no need for comments on this, I was young and foolish). The last 3 have been over the past 3 years. I've never ran more than 2 compounds per cycle.
The first one was just Test E for 12 weeks
Second Test E & Deca
Third as stated above Test E & Var
So my winter lean bulk. I will either start in September (I know thats Autumn). Or January.
So I was proposing this.
1- 4 Test P 100 eod
1-16 Test E 600 p/w
1- 14 EQ 300 p/w
PCT to start 2 weeks after last Test E shot.
I look forward to your comments
Happy lifting
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lean bulk sounds like cheating yourself out of a real bulk, if i were you id drop the eq, run your test e and your prop kicker and add proviron, food will dictate results, ai as needed, pct 2.5 weeks after test e. also 16 weeks is a long time, it would mean over 6 months untill you recover, why not just 12 weeks.
Generally with EQ if you do a higher dose like say 600, you stop the EQ a week before the you stop the test e. So an example would be
Week 1-18 EQ
Weeks 1-19 test 400 or 500
Weeks 21 pct start
Thanks mTor,
I new about stopping the EQ before test. But as you can see not about running it higher that test.
And to run it longer than I proposed. I was stopping at 14 weeks, but seems ideally taking the EQ to 18 or 20 weeks.
Cheers bud
Dont forget pre, mid and post cycle bloodwork. And, u could do some research on frontloading the EQ for optimal effectiveness. Monitor RBC count. Maybe be ready to donate a unit of blood. U have an AI on hand?
OK,
So I've not had my bloodwork done before. Who do I see, my GP?. More reading required.
Yep I will have an AI on hand. I'll buy all my PCT and AI before the gear.
Thanks
If u r in an area that accepts it, U can go thru privatemdlabs.com....u need to order the female hormone panel. Bur, if u have a a good rapport with your GP and its cheaper than 50 dollars, it may be advantageous to talk to your doctor.
Hey,
I'll check out the lab. And think about my GP
Thanks
Let me know what u decide to do, bro...
Yeah I will do.
Think I will do this, just have to do some more research and understand it a bit more.
Thanks bud
OK,
So I've not had my bloodwork done before. Who do I see, my GP?. More reading required.
Yep I will have an AI on hand. I'll buy all my PCT and AI before the gear.
Thanks
IMHO eq at that dose might not show that much of effects bro.
Hi MB,
That's just what Catalyst said. Thanks for your comment.
Not a fan of the test / EQ ratio. True magic of EQ comes out when those numbers are more like reversed. I'd look at 400 test 600 EQ, something in that area. I'd also want to run EQ 16 weeks, pushing the cycle to 18.
When you stated your goal, assume that's long term rather than expectation from this cycle? EQ gains are more gradual, but solid and generally keep well if diet and training are consistent during and post pct.
Hope that helps?
Agreed...good info...
Hey thanks,
I thought you always ran test in higher doses to EQ. So I need to read up on that a bit more, as I dont fully understand.
You assume correctly about my long term gains.
Thanks
You can run test higher than EQ, but really it's a bit of a waste. The beauty of EQ is the hard and vascular finish that you'll detract from by using higher test. If your test dose is higher in theory you'll add more mass, but it will be a more watery look and better results could be achieved using other compounds if pure mass is the goal.
Ok,
I understand what you say regarding the watery look. What effect will that have on libido?
EQ won't effect your libido to any real degree, it's the test that will alter that. If you're running 400mg of decent test you'll be trying to have a pop at anything female ;)
Cheers,
That's good to know regarding libido....just need to find a willing female..!!
So Ive to research bloodwork, EQ more and pinning schedules as the prop will be eod and both the Test and EQ twice a week.
Any problems drop me a line and I'll help you sort it out.
Thanks dude