posted Fri, 03/22/2013 - 11:29
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proposed test-e&eq cycle
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1-12 test-e 600mg
3-13-adex .25e.o.d
14-18-nolva40/40/20/20
14-18-clomid100/100/50/50
adjust adex if need be
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At 20% bf I'd trim it down before thinking about a cycle. Sort out your diet and training routine first (you've only been training again for 3 months after a 5 year break if I understand correctly?) I'd revisit this idea further down the line personally.
you know thats not what I wanted to hear. How ever right it is,on the cardio now.I wish there was a compound for that.lol
I hear you! Cut your carbs at 1 or 2pm, and I mean ZERO carbs after that time and it will drop off you rapidly.
LaTTTimer99Yup - you don't have to go keto bro but he's right - the quickest way to shred is early AM cardio on an empty stomach (10-15 grams BCAA's and your stimulant of choice, get that cardio done ASAP) then your 1st and 2nd meals should have your oatmeal, sweet potatoes, etc - get those 2 carb meals in after your cardio before you lift - you'll have enough glycogen stores and energy for good pump - then your post-workout meal MAYBE 20-30 grams carbs, from then on out until the next morning, keto it bro - zero carb (like he said, veggies are ok) - so much of the results we see are going to reflect our diets.
I have 2 good pre-contest diets on MS Word I'd happily send to you if you'll use them- some good supps to look into are liquid egg whites (International Egg Whites or Lana's) as they provide quick easy clean bio-available protein w minimal sodium and calories.
If you're trying to look good man, which we all are, your enemies are sodium and high-fructose corn syrup. Especially on gear watch the sodium - sucks too cuz almost all processed foods are filled with it... You might also consider looking into a "Paleo diet" - bottom line tho bro these guys called it - I'd take it out a bit longer natural, reap the benefits and just make yourself do that fasting cardio and eat clean - if you start your cycle from a clean baseline, and keep your diet strict, you'll yack up nicely. Good luck buddy get yoked!
good stuff bro would love to get the diets .Do you need anything from me to send info? I'm new to the online CPU world.
LaTTTimer99Ya I'll shoot you a PM right now - just need to E-mail them to you somehow.
thanks for the tips. you gays have renewed my faith in human nature.
I did not want to call everyone out but I agree bunch of homos.
Lmao!
I assume you meant guys not gays lol!
If you need any help with your diet etc, feel free to PM me ok?
wife works at sub way lots of free vegges. Are they cool after 12pm
Yes mate, offset by the fibre they provide so eat 'em.
all the veggies sub has in salad with a whole chic breast,vinagrete on it. Tasted great!
LaTTTimer99PS just noticed your comment - no disrespect bro but what they have behind the counter at Subway is slim on nutritional benefits - the best 2 vegetables you can and should eat daily are broccoli and sweet potatoes. These 2 are a bodybuilders best friend man. Broccoli is very nutrient-dense- whatever you do don't buy frozen veggies - broccoli is easy bro just steam it for 2 minutes and eat it w/ your meals. It has a good payoff man - I swear to you that I feel way better and am stronger & healthier when I'm eating good quantities of broccoli.
You ever try yams as your pre-workout meal? Man these are great - you just wash em off under the sink and pierce a few times with a knife, wrap in a paper towel & nuke for 2.5 minutes, flip over and nuke again for 2.5 minutes. Try eating one of these along with a few strawberries about 30-45 min. before your lift, and you'll be amazed at the pumps you'll get, and the increase in energy.
Sorry 4 the long post, but I def. recommend that broccoli and sweet potatoes are the best nutrient-dense high payout veggies we can eat - front load the yams tho if you're trying to rip up. Broccoli can be eaten anytime.
Try it out bro - diet is huge part of this here game we all play. Hit me up w/ any questions, peace!
I eat there twice a day. Love that place.
As stated below for a 1st cycle stick to the basics. Test only, you will do fine. For future reference however test needs to run 2 weeks longer than EQ due to the long half life of EQ created by the Undecylenate ester. For a shorter run with test and boldenone ending at the same time look for a bold cyp. A frontload with a 12 week run would work great in that case.
new cycle
1-12 test-e 2/w 600mg
1-12 adex eod .25
two weeks after last pin pct nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100'/50/50
hows that look
Start the .25 on the Adex E3D starting at week 3 possibly sooner if you start getting itchy or puffy nips, run blood work at week 6 to see what your levels look like. Otherwise outstanding. I give you a +1 for being willing to learn and adjust. Nice job.
thanks I wasn't sure when to get the blood work done the people are top shelf here. Can't wait to put this altogether .You cleared that up for me.And three weeks or signs witch ever come first for the adex.
gets my vote
you have put back on point. thanks again.
thanks for the protocol tips a big help!
http://spotinjections.com/ need help with pin size let us know too.
again spot on
weeks 1-12 500-600mg pr week test E or C
AI as needed I would start it few days after cycle starts
pct 2 weeks after last injection
nolva
40/40/20/20
clomid
100,100,50,50
AI only when symptoms start? should I front load the test
Front load I would think would be fine. Might get killer pip.
not when symptoms but when needed. I can not tell you the dose of AI that will work for you. I take at least to blood test during cycle to make sure I have ti right. I run adex .25-.50 ed or eod. My could be different from yours and me and you are different as well.
meant 2 blood tests
just have to keep the estro in the good range. I get this you can find a 15% off coupon as well. http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
this is great lab corp 3 blocks from me. Will i have any trouble with the blood draw seeing as I'm not a women?
nope you can tell them your name is batman and you have a vagina. The test level will only go to 1500 on that test. that is the only thing that sucks about it.
I love EQ...run it at the very least 16 weeks, but if this is your 1st cycle stick with Test only.
thanks, that is what my research tells me as well I have 5 kids don't want any more'so thought fuck it.good looking out
Bro...I've been on Test/Deca/Eq...girlfriend is preggo. You can't stop good sperm ;)
Best of luck to you.
so how long has she been cheating on you?
AnonLol.. That was uncalled for
yes it was :))
AnonI think you should run the eq longer
won't i need to run the test as well then
AnonYes... That goes without saying bro
test is always needed.
RustyhookerFirst cycle in many years....you'll do best with test only. Get bloodtest prior. Doublecheck your foods. Have extras of all your gear. Accidents happen and you'll be better with extra. Privatemedlabs.com the female panel tests your blood for less cost than the male test.
never did a cycle of anything . Clean diet 6' 235 20% bf. blood work for sure. Due i need a referral ? and what test do ask for ? I know i need t&e leveles . you think two compounds is getting greedy?
RustyhookerWith just the test, you'll be back to feeling like 21. It's that strong. It will be easier if you get bf down below 15%. Less bp issues, cardio issues, seeing gains better. Keep salt low and hydrate a lot will help. Using just 1 suppliment will boost strength and size pkus you won't have to guess which one is causing odd side effects. Simply control estro, eat and grow. Many guys keep growing on just test. Simple and straightforward with proper time off and good recovery. Privatemedlabs.com will tell you which clinic is close. It keeps your Dr from seeing uou as a drug user and burning your insurance. Its an online site and they have a call center as well.
Thanks I must say I agree just need to hear i guess
its not about getting greedy its about learning each compound and not wasting gear. You could grow crazy on 300 mg of test a week but the common 1st cycle is 500-600 mg a week. If you add a bunch of other compounds you will not have more gains. Think about it. If you could get worth while results with more gear on your 1st cycle everyone would do it. Also over time you have to increase your intake of AAS. At someone point it will not be worth fueling the fire and your at the end of the road. Slow as possible is the best way to go. Increase only when needed.
Always been strong starting to get older and want back on top. Down ego.Slow and steady. thanks for keeping it real.
RustyhookerThis ^^^^ +1 buddy!