Prepping for Comp next fall, Small bulk cycle advice
Hey guys so I just finished a cycle recentrly (4 weeks ago). And this upcoming year Im planning on competing in the fall in classic physic. I will be hiring a trainer for the prep, but want your guys opinion on a good way to add a little more mass before the Prep. I dont think i can fit two full three month cycles into a year with a good amount of rest time in between. Right now I'm planning to stay off till about March. Prep will start in July. So would it be acceptable to in March run an 8 week bulker. Just Test P and Dbol. Ive thought about trying HGH as well so thoughts on that too. Then resting and staying off till show so about 3 months off. Would like to hear opinions on what you would do in this situation. Im not one to run alot of gear or cruise. But i do think i may need a tad bit more for when i cut. so ya lmk.
Cycle would look like.
weeks 1-8 Test P 400-500mg
weeks 1-4 Dbol 25-50mg
Pct
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 75/75/50/50
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Also I would consider incorporating hcg into your pct regime, I personally didn't care to go over 50mg with the clomid, I encountered visual disturbances. The clomid nolvs stack is something I favored too though! Now I am on prescribed trt.
The fall? I would run a 16 week bulk to put on quality mass. This depends on your user experience but something like 750mg test enan, 600mg eq weekly, 5iu generics daily (hgh) and some adex 2-3mg weekly depending on you estrogen levels. Get bloods at beginning and mid way point. That's a shot mon, weds and fri of eq and test. Time it to where you are roughly 4-6 weeks from comp cycle start to recover from adrenal fatigue.
So you are suggesting only a 4wk break between cycles?
4 weeks would be a little short, not ideal but if it's part of a contest prep transition I would consider a shorter bridge personally. What's your thoughts ?
Thanks bro but I like to take 3-4 month breaks in between. Trying to stay away from goin into trt.
I understand! Honestly in that case I don't believe it will
Be worth it to run any gear between now and your prep. By the time you order it etc, You won't really have enough time to put any mature mass on and to run gear just to run and rush to get some little mass isn't worth it in your case, just unwarranted stress on your endocrine system, in actuality the pct is what causes the most stress on the HPTA. if you are dead set I would use something like test e 500mg weekly and mast e 200-400mg weekly for 10 weeks. Nothing too harsh on the endo system, the low dose mast will allow more free test for growth and help the test do its job.
I already got all my goodies. Mast, test, Var, proviron, Ebola Hcg, and pct meds. I was just hoping to put on a little more size. I'm 5,6 180 currently. Same as my pic I posted. Just got that voice in my head saying a little more lol. Before I do my cut I want to be 185-190. But I agree that I prob would put some mass on that wouldn't stick
Very bad idea unless his goal is to end up on TRT.
Whatchu think makwa just ride it out till contest prep and hopefully gain some mass during that? Rather than the small cycle in the middle? Thinking I would get some HGH and igf to help during time off
Don't plan on gaining mass during a prep. In fact you will likely lose some. I would just get on some GH and cycle IGF1 in the meantime. What you gain from the IGF will stick with you.
Thanks man appreciate the advice. I figured I would mostly lose a little but fill out some too I feel pretty deflated after coming off this last cycle. I know it's all in my head lol. Helps to say it lol
The IGF should help pump you back up.
Thanks makwa.
true! I had assumed he had been running gear for some time and already ventured that far. personally I feel with competing and running such compounds (tren, mast, winni, test etc) you're bounding yourself to inevitable trt in the long run, especially if you repeat the cycles and routinely run a blast/bulk. That's why I think it is of the utmost importance to get bloods, pre cycle, mid cycle and the following weeks post cycle. I love this sport and the lifestyle, however I love my existence and longevity much more!
Right there with you bro. Thanks for the insight.
Why dbol?
A buddy gave me a bunch. Otherwise no reason open to suggestions. I'm not a fan of orals but I don't want to run deca or something 19-nor family.
Most gains you make from dbol will be long gone in the 3 month break leading to the comp.
If your plan is to show fall, it would seem you have plenty of time.
If you're hiring a coach, why don't you hire them now. Let hime run your progression season all the way to show. if it monetary, i can understand. But start checking on quality coaches. See how the one you want takes payment. Some do 1 year plans with monthly deductions. Some do quarterly payments. I can tell you when working with clients, when you have time to learn everything you can about that persons body, the prep is much easier.
But back to you answer, HGH may be beneficial, if you have time to run 6 months plus. But also depends on age and dosage. I personally run 6iu or Sero or Lilly both in season and off. off season I prefer Sero, in season lilly keeps me leaner.
I think the 8 week cycle will be a nice small bulking cycle. it won't blow your mind, but will help you add strength and size. But I prefer Tbol to Dbol, bc I keep my weight from Tbol. Dbol I only keep a small amount, although I do get big and round.
Thinking about running some HGH yello ang and some reliable igf to help. Might not do a little cycle before contest prep and just wait out for the show
I ran tbol I liked it last cycle but It made me feel weird after taking it a few days. So I would take for few and then stop for two days maybe one. But my gains where hard but not that great. 50mg a day.
dont forget about HCG if you dont want to have shrinked balls
Have it on hand. Thanks bro.
What's your cycle history?
First cycle test only 500mg 12 weeks. Second test p kicker and ender with test e as base and tbol last 5 weeks.
Just remember your HPTA isn't worth a little plastic trophy that is just going to collect dust or get put in a box in the back of a closet.
Agreed man. Definitely keeping that close to home. I'm trying to give ample time between cycles to limit damage on HPTA.