posted Tue, 04/23/2013 - 17:09
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People with short cycle vs long cycles
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I've seen on this forum guys are using so many drugs for 12+ week cycle and other guys using less drugs for a shorter duration yes I know that's theirs a difference in the ester but wouldn't over time your body get use to the test coming in and your gains slow down? I'm scared of doing a long cycle for the extreme shit down but i want to do a short blast and cruise for 16weeks but not sure jf jt woulld work our .. have any opinions on this?
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RustyhookerStudy up. The cost is your balls. Or boobies
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/hard-shut-down
Rustyhookerhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-and-aromasin
Rustyhookerhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/everything-ab...
Thanks for the links I just didn't know about the caber being so important but I have it on hand tho I just haven't used it till I saw sides
AnonCaber is good if u find a legit source, parmi is easy to find and its increases GH and works just as good.
RustyhookerSmh......what you CANT see...CAN hurt you.
Gotcha bro ill start tomorrow ill drop the letro and run extremestane as well as caber
AnonShort vs long esters depends entirely on your goals..... and preferences...the ester can change the compound and its result......for instance testosterone......you take enanthate and you have a big potential for water retention.....prop you do not......same with nandrolone
If you cycle properly you will always get results given training and diet is on point.....im not saying they will always be the same.....i like to mix things up to keep growing.....i dont run one cycle dosed the same ...i go up and down with dosages.....mixing things up works for me.....i have to in order to keep growing and it works
Gotcha bro I currently just started a 9weeker test p and npp it's my first time using short esters hopefully ill like it better then test e .
RustyhookerPost it up
Don't know how too .. Placebo effect kicked in today lol did 5plate deadlift as my 6th set previous were all hyperthropy sets
Rustyhooker1-???? Prop....??
1-?????? Npp.....??
Caber.....? Prami? Ai? Pct?
500Prop 1-10
450Npp 1-8
Hcg 8-10
Letro and caber on hand armidex 12.5 Ed
Pct nolva clomid armidex DAA will increase cals by 300 weekly during pct yes you a increase to battle cortisol
RustyhookerCaber .25e3d. Not on hand. Prolactin will bite ya.
You mean aromasin? Exmestane?
I have extremestane and don't know how to dose it I've been taking .3mg letro as of day , haven't began to use caber just yet
RustyhookerExemastan/aromasin is typical Ai. Letro is typically for estro related gyno...emergencies.
Prolactin is kept low by caber.. Estro and prolactin are different.
Damn , doesn't caber ruin my sex drive? I don't want to explain why I have erectile dsynfunction bcuz of caber. I bought my caber from mpresearchsupply not sure if its legit or not
RustyhookerDude! This is why folks post cycles before they try it!
Caber lowers prolactin. High prolactin CAUSES erectile dysfunction. I strongly suggest you get to reading forums before your sprouting milky nipples.
I have caber on hand lol , ill start it tomorrow I'm only on day 2 of my cycle
I normally front load with dbol, and buy enough gear to cycle for 12+ weeks. I'm still quite the novice, but my cycle lengths range from 8-13 weeks depending on blood work and sides. I've always been fond of long esters, but had great results using Sust mixes. You should read up more before you cycle, I'm learning a shitload of info lately about different anti-e's and how to glean more useful info out of my blood work...
SwolePatrole7This dude sound like hes lost..geez. Pick on or the other and go with it..run the same dose the whole cycle..maybe a lil higher the first few weeks to kickstart the gains but other than that pick an ester short or long and pick a dose and ride it out, that back and forth shit with changing doses sounds pretty stupid and i dont see the reasoning for it?!?
RustyhookerBlast n cruise is TRT....you trt? Stats? Goals?
Goal getting ready for a show in August and November stat 5'9 190 8%bf
see the reference to blast and cruise. "short blast and cruise" i dont get that. is it a 16 week cycle or big cycle and long taper, a big kicker followed with long ester cycle. i dont get it. blast and cruise is TRT lol
Oh I feel like a dumbass now I was thinking of doing 8 week short Ester 4week trt dose 8 weeks of another blast of short esters.
my opinion, running that long would best be suited with long esters. short esters are ran short term because gains are made right away and it lowers sides to run short term. youre kind of defeating the purpose of a short ester here.
whats your cycle experience?? a cycle like this would be really on ya. shut down would be awful, and you may be seriously looking into trt after this
Test500weekly dbol/ and gotcha thanks I was just thinking of using the first half to bulk then cut down but thanks for the clear up.
do your dbol weeks 1-4 and the test (long ester, E or C) weeks 1-12 run aromasin from day 1. best dose to start at is 6.25 EOD and adjust from there as needed. dose depends on person, cycle and aromatizing rate. so you my find your changing you ai dose more than you thought you would. actually id start at 6.25 ED with a dbol kicker. make sure you got liver support on hand too. liv52, organ shield or any decent liver shield.
Sorry for the miss communication but test and dbol was my first cycle
Rustyhooker^^^^like that. The Ed low dose aromasin. Blood test week 6 to dial in estro//ai.
Pct 2Weeks after last pin
Aromasin 12.5 12.5 6.75 6.75
clomid 100...100...50..50
Nolva 20...20...10..10
I kept all the gains from my first cycle
RustyhookerAwesome!
RustyhookerA couple newer folks have mistaken cruise for off time while others meant bridge. Lol! Hope he replies so you can work your magic!
im not feelingthis one, i kind of feel like there is a lack of experience and confusion. like its a newb feeling us out for the correct info. i hope im wrong though.
Greekmuscle1Ding ding ding I agree
RustyhookerI agree with ya. Bulking/cutting same cycle is hard to do.
Keep it simple
short blast and cruise??? either way its a long cycle, your just doing less for the end.. the duration of the cycle for the experienced aas user is about goals not about the gear. you come up with goals and build a cycle around them.