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Opinions on first cycle

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So I as plan for my first cycle I wanted some opinions. Currently I'm about 225lb at 15% diet is about 60/25/15 Protein, carbs, fat. I was going to run Test C at 500/wk for 14 weeks with Aromasin starting at 12.5mg EOD then PCT for 4 weeks on Nolva at 40/40/20/20. How does this look? Any changes that are recommended?

Makwa's picture

60/25/15 Protein, carbs, fat.

Why so much protein? Are you cutting? How many cals are you eating.

Dets's picture

I'm at week 10 and haven't taken an AI. I have pharma grade on hand (aromasin and a-dex) but my bloods show that I don't need it.

Everyone is different. Makwa posted a thread on this topic thats helpful.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-cycle-when...

herpjunkie111's picture

Running aromasin at 12.5mg eod on 500/week cyp might be too much - crash your estro and you won't gain crap but a lack of energy and a limp johnson.

I just ran a 500mg/week test cycle and only took aromasin periodically at signs of high estro and that worked well.

Maybe the vets can chime in on this, but 500mg and some folks don't even need an ai, so the eod suicidal seems harsh.

IrishMack's picture

If you check tje cycle logs, there is a guy who was taking .25 adex eod. His estrobwas through the roof. He started taking .5 eod and now his e2 is dead smack in the middle. A lot of people here would never recommend .5 eod. Everyone aromatizes test differently, and thats why the cookie cutter method is getting stale. Bloodwork is the most important thing to making sure you are getting the best from your cycle......and more then 90% dont get bloods........and more then half make little gains or no gains at all, plenty of water gains though because either estro is too high or too low, or their test is underdosed or over.

Muffins's picture

Until one knows what works best for them, low estrogen is better than high estrogen. I’d rather back off an AI and aromatize back up quickly than battle estrogen back down and catch a gyno flare.

RangerVet's picture

Research Clomid! It's not something you can forget post cycle with your nolvadex. Critical component

RangerVet's picture

And or hcg..but I don't think your at a hcg level knowledge and reconstituting wise....so just take the pills

vhman's picture

Your PCT is missing a compound and when do you plan on starting your AI and where are your pre-bloods and subsequent bloods?

IrishWOLFhound's picture

I'm not condoning this cycle because I don't know
know enough info about you but at least your not planning to run 25 different steroids like some first cycles I see posted .

PPGfreak's picture

Age? Goals from this cycle?

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ehhillforget's picture

25, gain about 20 lbs.

shiva4's picture

Your diet design is 60% kcals coming from protein and 25% of kcals coming from carbs and you plan on gaining 20 lbs?

ehhillforget's picture

Ok, I see the problem, need more carbs, what would you recommend in terms of carbs to protein?

shiva4's picture

We are more than willing to help with yout diet. My concern is your talking about running a cycle and it's clear you have a whole lot to learn about your diet first.... I suggest you start a new thread and lay out your diet and training to get feedback on that. My guess is you still have some room for progress natural, especially at your age...

ehhillforget's picture

Will do that. Thanks man.

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