posted Tue, 02/10/2026 - 06:36
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Opinions on best mass cycle
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In your opinion what is the best bulking cycle when fat gain isnt a concern? I have an over active thyroid (0.26 TSH) so gaining is very hard for me.
My 2nd cycle included deca and dbol which i struggled with controlling sensitive nipples and tissue growth with AI. After PCT tissue is fully or mostly gone.
If fat gain is no concern what is the best possible cycle?
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Proper food and gym
Bro, lots of good advice already down there…
We are all on the same page
Clean food.
Calorie surplus.
Time.
Consistency.
Sleep.
Heavy training.
Genetics.
Drugs just amplify whatever those are doing.
You can grow great on just test + GH if the foundation is solid… and you can run half the pharmacy and still spin your wheels if it’s not. There are a million protocols for gaining size, but none of them replace the basics.
Also, just my humble opinion … if you’re doing full PCT and going back to natural levels, “growth phase” doesn’t really exist. True off-season and cutting phases make way more sense for guys who blast and cruise. Otherwise, you end up pushing androgens, gaining a bunch of water and short-term tissue, then losing most of it once your test crashes back to baseline. Hard to hold anything meaningful that way.
So yeah… build the base first. Compounds come second. IMHO.
Test 800 EQ 500 Tren 70 weekly. Gh 1iu right when you wake up and 5 iu before bed. 8iu long acting insulin.
I should of clarified i feel like ive never read a cycle log or suggestion thread of someone with overactive thyroid with a very high metabolism. Usually people are doing their best not to gain fat so I wondered if there was a cycle most wouldnt do but would work for me.
Test and Anadrol ran high. It’s really gonna be a diet thing for your genetics, you have to eat, so add in EQ for hunger and I’d add mk677 too. Will raise ghrelin make you starved and in turn increases your own body’s production of igf1. I don’t use it anymore cuz I get fat
Ive seen different variations used at different dosage, what do you consider high? Last cycle i ran 16 weeks 500mg test, 300mg deca, 50mg dbol 6 weeks, and I was on mk677 before and during it helped with hunger intensity but i still struggled eating 4000+ calories. Gained roughly 33 lbs, lost about 15 after cycle.
Also as @randomdude said sleep and lift heavy. It sounds like “ohh but tell me how to really get bigger” but it literally is just as important as any anabolic you can get your hands on
Eat 5000 calories a day, lift heavy, then sleep.
A lot of people don’t get it really becomes a diet thing. Have to eat
BEST? Probably Test + Tren + EQ so you're hungry a lot, throw in an oral, and maybe HGH. I've never had problems gaining so if I do gain I want it to be lean...otherwise it can be 30-40 lbs and my face looks like I lived in a McDonalds
This is the way.
Im scared of tren lol. Stories have scared me off even researching it. Can it be used safely? I generally prioritize minimizing sides.
Yes and no, it depends how you react. The question was "best" so if you're not throwing in tren you're missing out. A lot of people skip it due to the sides, lower cardio, anxiety, sweating when sleeping, makes you go a little nutty, you start liking tranny porn and so on. What works for me is a small dose, anything over 250mg/week and I start getting most of the sides I mentioned, I would be scared to know what 500mg+ would be like. You could leave it out and still get very good results some just think Tren has different physique and building. It's good bang for your buck, but I wouldn't ever just go recommending it.
this. agree 100% with thebigK.
sides are impacted largely by dosage and test levels. iow, they may be shooting too much or not properly compensating for test shut down or both.
with tren, a little goes a long way. I think guys shoot a little and they're like wow I should double it.
at 225mg/wk I am gaining lean mass, burning fat, no sides other than aggressive and libido maxxing, sleep unaffected, no acne, no hair loss. at 300mg/wk I get a little acne, sleep less and I don't go beyond that.
listen to your body, replace the lost testosterone, which implies you are in tune with your body and pulling bloods to monitor.
ease in to it with tren ace and listen to your body. some guys micro dose and get good results in terms of redistribution and toning.
Love this blast. Just add dbol.
I've never Dbol but have a pack, always afraid of that moon face. I've anadrol but it destroyed my liver
The face does get fat. Im rather lean but l love that dbol pre lift. Its hard to beat. Drop 20mg dbol 10mg cialias pre lift. Your welcome.
I might give it awhirl, do you do it daily or only on lifting days? I tried to lift with cialis after seeing strongmen had boners during competitions and googled why. It definitely helps lol
Well its going to be different for everyone for me when I was younger I couldn't gain weight it was a struggle no matter what but id have to say i like test ,,npp with a dbol kicker
I was considering npp instead of deca to see if I get less gyno stuggles.
You might get side effects if you're above a certain bodyfat
If you mess around with test deca dbol anadrol you will for sure run into gyno issues.