On until summer bulk/cruise/cut!
Hi guys!
My first post here in the forum, hope that you can be helpful, although my english isn't perfect ;-)
The plan is to start my 4th cycle in january and stay ON until summer.
Stats:
Age: 30
Height: 6'2
Weight: 210lbs
The cycle looks like this:
Bulk:
1-3 Oxy 50mg ed
1-7 Sust 500mg ew
1-7 Deca 500mg ew
8-12 Sust 1000mg ew
8-12 Deca 750mg ew
9-12 Dbol 50mg ed
Cruise:
13-16 Sust 250mg ew
Cut:
17-19 Test p 150mg eod
17-19 Tren a 50mg eod
20-22 Test p 150mg ed
20-22 Tren a 50mg ed
Mct:
1-22 Letro 0,625mg eod
1-22 Hcg 250iu e3d
Pct:
Clomid+nolva
I choose Letro as mct because I am a bit gyno-prone, are there better alternatives?
Dbol in the end of bulk cycle, unnecessary?
Should I continue my 250mg cruise-dose all the way through cut phase?
All of your oppinions are welcome, thank you!
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Too long bro, and way too much gear ,. I would cut back to 14 weeks max and get the doses down , unless you plan to stay on ( hrt)........
Allright, I hear you all. I will lower the doses, but still stick to the bulk/cruise/cut concept. Tried to lean-bulk last winter and to be honest, it didn't really turn me on :-) Still a fan of heavy bulking and then cut later on.
AnonAlso, I don't understand why you're trying to bulk, then cut down all in one cycle.. doesn't make sense to me. Why dontcha just go for a complex lean mass cycle.. because IN THE END...thats what you'll be sitting at. You're trying to add all that weight to just cut it down
AnonHOLY SHIT!!!! unless you're trying to compete as a bodybuilder, I think a much smaller stack would serve just as good. Looking at this makes me wonder if your heart will make it all the way till your cruise.. You got the right idea with your HCG and PCT etc/ I just think you need to slow down. Run a complex 12 week cycle closer to your cruise or whatever...
Frankieits well planned for what it is bro i give you props on that but imo and its just IMO i would much rarther do a one 12 week total lean mass cycle and it would look something like this
weeks 1-4 50mgs dbol ed
weeks 1-12 750mgs sust ew
weeks 1-10 600mgs deca ew
weeks 8-14 100mgs winny or 100mgs var ed
weeks 1-14 0.5 adex e3d
weeks 1-14 hcg 500iu ew
nolvadex/clomid and proviron pct
great clean diet/good rest and heavy lifting will have you in tip top shape .
the winny and var at the end willl really top the cycle off and make you hard as a rock makeing them bulky gains from the sust and deca look very good ,no bloat due to the adex .
if you do it right you can hit bulk/cut all in one cycle and end up with the same results as a 22 weeker.
just my opinion bro not everyone may agree but i have had many cycle under my belt and find lean mass cycles are alot better than bulk/cut cycles.
tread-mTHats getting a little closer. I dont see the need for over 600/400 test deca if doing the wrok and I'd drop the var at that dose to 4 weeks. Liver enzymes at 100 will begin to change on week 5 of var that high so 4 weeks has always been the maxd for me. Now if you run a feww weeks at 50 and then ramp to 100 then there is nothing wrong there given enzymes wont be altered at 50.
tread-mI hope this shit wont haunt me! Go to the sticky at the top of the general topics page "AERO". Ironically he was on his 4th or 5th cycle as well. Your sauce stack is huge brother if you will go find the sauce stack chart and see how those esters grow like crazy. Dont try to replace hard work with compounds brother. Run your compounds and do the work in the kitchen and gym but dont get the compounds so high in ester stack that you threaten your health. Life is short man.....
Thank you, I will reconsider the amount of juice. Harsh reading by the way :-(
I'd run a 12 week cycle as stated above....maybe draw it out a few extra weeks with test prop?
Lots of compounds for such a long run.
Just my thoughts and I don't know much so take the SRC and other guys words for it
Just re-read that and cringed at the thought of decca and Dbol and sus and a sus coast?!?! THEN tren lol I wouldn't last on this, my joints would scream at me