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NPP & Prolactin

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Hey Guys
First time posting here, but not a newbie. For my cycle I am contemplating 250mg Test E(trt prescribed) + 250 Test P + 300 mg NPP. The Test P & NPP will be ed injections. I will be taking Arimidex. Past cycles I used .25mg eod but will adjust accordingly once into the cycle. I have one main fear with this simple cycle. I have never used a 19-Nor before, and the prolactin sides scare me a bit. Mainly because the sides of Prami scare me a bit. I like the idea of NPP and short cycles because it is quick in and quick out and you can abort if things get too crazy. Would it be okay to start this cycle without Prami..hear me out, and control the estrogen and if I do develop prolactin sides to just abort the NPP. Even though I am not a newbie I know I am not ready to get into the Prami quite yet. Hearing about people getting sick and throwing up isn't my cup of tea. Any suggestions would be great. This is my 4th cycle. My first 3 cycles were all test and I got up to 1gm/week with my last cycle. I know I can tolerate Test just fine, but not sure about other injectables. Also I thought about EQ but I do blood work for my dr. every 3 months and I can't have that showing up on it since it takes forever to kick in. This is another reason why I like short cycles. Any ideas or thoughts to proposed cycle

swolltroll's picture

I dont see stats. If you jump on NPP without caber on hand, your gonna regret it. Even if you run into prolctin sides, and you stop NPP, this does not mean the sides magically go away. You could be dealing with elevated levels for weeks, they dont drop quick.

:-C

There is definetly no reason to jump into 19nor's yet. Save your money. If you can grow off test than stick to it. More is not always better.

Masteron can cause side effects notably receding hairline. something to consider.

jktteam's picture

Thank you for your help. I've decided to wait. I'm smart enough to know if it scares me a bit then I shouldn't be doing it. I may do test again with Tbol. Thanks for your help.

mwagner630's picture

prami sides are almost always from it being ran incorrectly. if you taper up correctly, ive never heard of a problem with it than. if you fear the prami go with caber, also, prolactin isnt a joke, once you get those sides they can last a long time with no prolactin control , you can develop prolactin related gyno, and start lactating . if you arent willing to try a prolactin control you arent ready for any nor19.

jktteam's picture

That's actually what I am leaning towards. I think I am prolactin sensitive. Even DAA raised my prolactin. If I ever do take the plunge, how do you come off of prami

mwagner630's picture

i just come off slowly, its a dopamine agonist, it does effect dopamine levels, and sleep patterns. so i taper off over 2 weeks. seems to make a difference in bouncing back from it. this is what i do, i know many others who wait till they feel the nor cleared and just stop.

GrowMore's picture

I skimmed read your question but on a closer look I saw a few things. If you run into prolacting problems it's not the sort of thing you want to just 'ride out'. It off sets the rest of your hormones and ends up a disaster. I'm not saying you will have a problem as many people can run 19nor without any support and not run into problems. You just need to cover yourself for the lightly event. If you ramp up prami slowly you don't feel as sick

jktteam's picture

Thanks for the advice. I always second guess myself. Do you have any knowledge on if EQ would affect my test levels for my trt blood tests. Im thinking NPP is another year down the road or so

GrowMore's picture

Sorry I can't help with that but check out the over 40 and TRT area. Full of extremely knowledgeable old farts!

GrowMore's picture

Look into Caber, very low sides compared to prami.

On a side note NPP is classed as a advanced steroid so you might be better off running something else like Drostanolone propionate if you wanted to add a little more spice to the mix

jktteam's picture

I was thinking about Masteron. I am doing a bit of a bulk this winter. I didn't think Masteron would be good for that, or am I wrong?

GrowMore's picture

It would be beneficial but weather or not you'd get bang for your buck is another question. Tbol maybe?