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Next cycle. Needing Advice

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Hey all. Waiting a year went out the window. I'm getting ready to run what I think to be a mild cycle compared to what I used to do. Here's my most recent stats:

5'9"
160
13%

Going to be running this:

Weeks 1-10: Monday/Thursday total 800mg week
Test E 200 x2
Mast E 100 x2
Tren E 100 x2

Weeks 11-12:
Test Prop Monday-Friday 100mg 500 mg/week

Weeks 13/14
Clomid 100/50
Nolvadex 75/50
Aromasin 6.25 EOD

I'm thinking of throwing in 50mg ED of Anavar weeks 3-10.

Not sure if I need an AI during cycle with the masteron in there. Let me know please

Yell at me if anything sounds ridiculous here and point me to a better direction. Mast, Tren, test are all on the way already, as well as pct. Thanks ahead of time for any info scolding and advice!

PPGfreak's picture

Calories make you grow, not steroids. Steroids just help the calories..... but your diet obviously sucks so what the point of running them? Learn to eat right and train correctly first.

This is a cutting cycle? It's not a very good one but I'm not sure what your goal from this is...

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Juicemonkey29's picture

Yes calories with lots of protein!

Draconiaous's picture

I'm at work right now will be reading that soon. I'm not going to run the cycle yet, not til I grow more, but I am going to prepare for when its time. The tren, mast, and test are on the way already shipped but I'm setting it aside for now. I'm gonna listen to experience over impulse. Whats your input?

Draconiaous's picture

I know how to train its just been a while since I've done so. My diet has been good in the time I started again. Vegetables: Brussels sprouts, green beans, peas, broccoli, cauliflower. Meat: chicken breast, tuna, tilapia filets, occasional steak, carbs white rice or whole grain pastas. 3 meals a day, protein shake post workout and before bed. Supplementing with a multi vite, fish oil, glucosamine/chondroitin/msm. My diet isn't the best but it's what I can afford. Goal for this is lean body mass

PPGfreak's picture

When you say "lean body mass" I assume you mean that you want to put on some clean muscle/size? If that is the case you can add another 30 pounds or more naturally. You do not need gear for this. You just need to adjust your diet, three meals a day is a joke. I eat five when I'm cutting and eight when I'm putting weight on. You can't eat three times a day and expect to grow.

Diet does the work. Not the steroids.

Plus if this is a bulk cycle why would you pick Tren and Mastron? Neither is a bulker....

Just a heads up, I'm 5'9 and 215lb

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Draconiaous's picture

5'9? 195-200 is my goal, 8-10%. I'm going to read up on some of your posts for info and inspo. Thanks again

Draconiaous's picture

I hear you. The gear is already on the way but I'm just gonna set it aside for now. Thanks to everyone's input I'll be going back to my original plan and doing things naturally til I can hit about 180 10%. Thanks to everyone for their concern, input, and good hearted advice. You guys are great

PPGfreak's picture

Perfect response! Post up in the diet section to get some help bro. Plenty of vets around here willing to help

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helloBrooklyn's picture

Besides everything already said, why the screwy injection schedule?

Draconiaous's picture

Screwy how? 200 test e 100 mast e 100 tren e twice a week mon/thur..do you mean the prop? Thats my taper off on the esters to have less time with no test going through to pct

helloBrooklyn's picture

So Monday AM and Thursday PM? Otherwise there'd be a longer gap between the Thursday to Monday than the Monday to Thursday if they're both done in the AM or PM. It probably doesn't really matter in the long run. Just my OCD coming out. Nothing to worry about.

I may have misread the prop part though. It's only one week so 5 days total? I thought it meant Monday through Friday, weekend off, then Monday through Friday again.

Draconiaous's picture

You got it right the first time. Mon-Friday weekend off then Monday-Friday. Sat Sunday off Monday start pct

helloBrooklyn's picture

For the record, I'm not cosigning anything. However, I would think just eod across the board would yield more stability than 5 on-2 off. Again, practically speaking, it probably won't affect anything.

Draconiaous's picture

Thanks for the info, noted

Bearded_muscle's picture

So when you say compared to what you used to run, you mean you used to cycle pretty hard right? High dosages, heavy compounds etc...
How long have you been out of the game? 160 sounds undersized for a cycle weight. Especially from a guy with serious cycles under his belt.

Draconiaous's picture

Its been about 3 years, had 2 car accident back to back right after I finished pct and haven't work out seriously since then til about a month ago. Already lost bf, was at 16, down to 13, gained some muscle.

I ran test e 400 + sust 250, deca 300, and mast en 200 twice a week + 50mg dbol ed for last 4 weeks for about 3 months after a few months of tren e 200, test e 250, mast e 200 twice a week.

Bearded_muscle's picture

Got it my dude. Saw what you said about the recovery too. Congrats on getting clean, not everybody understands how hard that can be.
I'd try to eat everything you can for the next year or two before jumping back on cycle and see what you can get done. I'd bet you surprise yourself.
Good luck!

Draconiaous's picture

That's what I originally going to do but to see where I was to where I am now is so frustrating. At my best I was 176 at 9%. Not the biggest but I definitely felt like a viking. I'm thinking maybe holding off for now on this idea a little while, but I'm going to grab everything I need to have it ready. I was scrambling a few years ago to get everything I needed on time, won't do that again

Bearded_muscle's picture

I wouldn't even buy the gear because then it'll be sitting there and you'll be itching to jump on. Set a target like 180-200 depending on what you think you can do and then when you hit it, order your reward cycle. That's what I'd do.

Draconiaous's picture

Definitely agree there but they're already shipped out..mast/test as of last week tren as of yesterday.

Draconiaous's picture

I'm in recovery, been a little over a year now no drinking or sugar candy. Came into recovery at 153, went up to a tubby 178, worked my way down to 165 and now 160 with gym time.