New Dbol/Test-E/deca cycle
This is my third cycle. First was test only, second was test and dbol. Both went smooth and I didn't run into any problems.
Stats:
6'
218lbs, 18%bf
30 yrs old and have been training serious since I was 21
I'm trying to bulk so I'm shooting for around 500 gms of carbs per day and 350-375 gms of protein per day. Still trying to work out exactly how many total calories I'm going to take in but I'm not necessarily worried about it either since I'm bulking.
I train 5-6 days a week. One body part per day. Going with a modified 5x5 routine that has worked for me in the past.
Weeks 1-4
Dbol 30-50 mg per day split into three doses. (Especially interested in feedback on dbol dosage.)
Weeks 1-10
Deca 200 mg per week, split into two weekly doses. I know this is a low dose for deca but since its my first run I want to keep it low.
Weeks 1-12
Test-e 450 mg per week, split into two weekly doses.
Exemestane 12.5 mgs per day
Prami .25 mgs per day
Weeks 15-19
Standard nolva/clomid pct
Should I run exe and prami up until PCT. Should I run them with PCT? These are two of my biggest questions right know.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions and help.
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So I started this cycle on Sunday. Hit my second pin this morning and I'm feeling fine overall BUT my workouts have been shit. I can't focus at all this week. I've been taking a pre workout before I hit the gym and I wonder if that plus the gear is too much and that's why I can't focus. I'm going to drop the pre workout tomorrow so ill let you all know how that goes. Just wondering if anyone else has had a similar problem. I'm usually very, very focused and aggressive in the gym.
juice12345678Not bad brother....
Caber is better in my opinion....might want to have some HCG on hand in case the kids disappear
Kind of wondering why you're bulking....changing to 5 X 5....are you planning on powerlifting?
5 / 3 / 1 might be better
A little more background... I've never been able to put on much size. I found the 5x5 routine, made some changes that I felt worked of me and went from 208 to 228 in a little over 7 months. That was without any gear whatsoever. With that being said....I now feel that the 5x5 works for me personally when I'm trying to put on size.
I'm very glad you brought up HCG. I went back and forth over whether or not to include it but at the end of the day I decided to leave it out since I'm leaving my dosages on the low side and the kids didn't go away on my other cycles. Do you think the deca would be the catalyst to push me over though? I'm certainly not against adding HCG. Thanks very much for your input.
juice12345678Just have it around brother....
Never know....
Sending you a FR. I've never run HCG before but I went ahead and got some.
Great point. I think I'll start looking around for some today. Any suggestions on dosing for someone around 220lbs? I'm going to have to do some major research today. I know next to nothing about HCG....
Good point. I've run 5x5 and it's a very good matrix for gaining muscle fast. I did put on too much weight doing it and I've spent this last entire year trying to drop the mass and cut it up. I'm a little shoter and being 265-270 like I was just made me look chubby no matter how solid and dense I was without clothes. Once the clothes went on sall people saw was size. If I could do it different I'd definitely do things much slower and less intensity.
Pct needs to be 4 weeks
15-19
clomid 100/100/50/50/
nolva 40/40/20/20/
and then everything GS already said
Thanks for pointing that out. That was a typo in my initial post for it to read 15-16.
I won't bother scolding you about BF bro you must already know a high BF amplifies the negative sides of Deca and Dbol. I must say the dosages being low like u have them is a very good plan. I'd run the dbol @ 30mg daily split 3x a day. Be careful with the prami. Some of the sides can be a bitch. If u can find Caber I'd pay the extra for it.
If u can't I'd run the Prami up until PCT since it really has now sexual benefits like Caber which comes in handy for PCT. The Aromasin can and IMO should be ran through PCT. The benefits to it include increased IGF-1, increase in endogenous Test, zero E2 rebound. Run it 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25 alongside the standard Clomid Nolva PCT.
Thanks for the advice. I'm not totally sure that my bf is accurate. I had a guy at the gym tape me but I don't think he did it right. I'm actually pretty lean all over except for my midsection. I'm probably holding about 5 extra lbs there. I've also read up a ton on the prami sides and it seems that people run into them when taking higher doses or ramping those dose up too fast. I plan on starting the prami a week before my cycle starts and at a lower dose then .25 mgs.
I do need to get an accurate body fat done. I'm not starting this run until after the new year so I may work on getting my body fat lower first. I'm in no rush. Trying to get this right!
Thanks again.
Smart man:-) Good luck bro. Holler at me if u ever need a hand