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Need some advice/opinions on 3rd cycle

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This will be my third cycle in the last 3 yrs. Have done 14 weeks of Test E (cycle #1) and 14 weeks of Test E and Deca (cycle #2). First cycle I gained a lot of strength and about 8-10 solid lbs of muscle (mass that maintained after PCT) and on the second cycle I blew up with the Test E and Deca @ 500mg/wk for each. I started out at 185 and got up to 210 but it was too heavy for me. I ate everything in sight but abs were still visible. I liked being that size but I had trouble sleeping and I got injured a lot at that weight. I stretch and do cardio on a regular basis (not tooting my own horn but I am a strength coach at a large high school and worked for a D1-AA strength program for 3 yrs so it's impossible for me to preach it and not do it lol.). I dropped the weight and got back into "football shape" when I got invited to a CFL tryout while playing some semi-pro ball. I am now down to 180 and around 9% BF. I do not want to get back to 200, I would like to be 190-195 and remain around 10% BF. I know it takes a while but I am not too familiar with these types of cycles. Any ideas would be great but I will tell you what I was thinking, Test E 500mg weeks 1-14, EQ 500mg weeks 1-12, Var (not sure on the dosage or time frame, have read many different views. Also when to put it in. Some have said the last 4-6 weeks and other have said the first 4-6 weeks but That seems like a lot in the beginning of a cycle). I also know that EQ users all say you should run it at least 14 weeks but I don't want to push the Test E 16 weeks to carry it passed the EQ. I will also run HCG 500iu E3D, Arimidex 6.25 EOD, PCT 2 weeks after last Test E shot Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50

Does this seem like a beneficial cycle for my goals? Suggestions/Comments/Concerns are all welcome!

Enyeart's picture

I would agree with running the EQ for at least 14 weeks at 600mgs a week. Test E at 500 mgs.Instead of running the Anavar all the way through and possibly start cramping up a lot, you can try running it the final weeks of your cycle and see how that goes 50mg ED would be a good start and go from there. I'm pretty sure you would be able to reach your goals with just the Test and EQ though and save the Anavar for another cycle.

bobcat2's picture

Sounds great, thanks. I was unsure when to run the var bc I had seen some cycles where it was taken in the beginning and some in the end. I think I will just get the var and keep it on hand just in case I am not happy with the results I am having the first 8-9 weeks.

gatorbits's picture

you can reach your goals with TEST ENANTHATE ONLY, diet @ 4500 cals or up to 6000 if needed

YOU COULD GET YOUR GOALS NATTY as your not far off from them now

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bobcat2's picture

The only problem (not making excuses) Is, I have been lifting for hypertrophy and sports specific since I was 15 and I have never been able to pass the 170lb mark without AAS. I am a very hard gainer and unless I stop conditioning, which I cannot do, It will take me very long time to achieve those goals. Trust me on this, diet is not the issue, I eat plenty of calories (as many as I can at least) lol. I do agree that if I did not condition and maintained my diet and workout plan that this would be possible.

bobcat2's picture

PCT makes sense. Thanks for the advice. I may not touch the Var if that's the case. I have an issue with muscle cramps. Not during exercise, it's always 2-4 hours later. I have had multiple tests ran and nothing has been found that could cause this issue. It's the usual, "you're over training" or "you just need to stretch more before and after your exercise" which I do on a daily basis 20-30 minutes at a time lol.

bobcat2's picture

Yeah, I thought it was the same problem at first and every time they ran tests (before exercise, immediately after, and hours after exercise) my sodium and potassium levels were fine. Not sure what it is but I will try the aspirin if my bp get up. Thanks for the advice.

rodgers16's picture

I think eq should be ran for atleast 16 weeks
Anavar up to 100mg if you can afford it would suffice. All depends on how you eat