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Need some advice folks.

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Hi folks. I'm new here and would like some advice.

I'm currently on fifth week of a planned 6 week Hdrol @ 75mg per day plus Test C @ 200mg per week. On TRT at 100mg per week, so no PCT. I want to bridge straight into 600mg/week of Test-E for 12 weeks, then back to TRT. Anyone see a problem with this?

Been training naturally for 7 years. Stats are 5'8" 201 @ 12-13 % BF. Diet is as close to perfectly on point as it could be I suppose.

My biggest concern overall is growing too much too fast. If I add another 20-30 pounds I'm afraid of possible tendon damage.

moparshawn's picture

was looking away at some killer les porn and got off track and hit post. ahh dam..
oh well.

moparshawn's picture

i got a whole cycle of rock hard brand halo plex pro hormones. a cheap name for hdrol. i was set big time on running this. but seem to me every one i talked to a bout pro hormones really didnt like the out come. most said if they had to do over they would have run real gear.and for me there just way to many things with pro hormones that seem to be really bad...bla bla bla and so on.im with zewi and viking on this....for about the same price you can run real gear and not get a pucked up..just to hard on the old liver.. the crap i have here was a waste of money.. ill give it away if some one will pay shipping...lol nah im not that sorry. but go with real gear. lot safer.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Lmao! me too pro hormones are nothing i want to be near.... roids for me if it aint broke dont fix it!

Vestevel's picture

Thanks for all the replies.

Thought long and hard about posting this because most won't believe a word of it. On July 6th my weight was 161 @ 8 percent BF. I started Hdrol @ 75mg per day on July 7th and increased TRT dosage of test by 100mg per week. Last Friday I stepped on the scale first thing upon waking and was 201. BF % has increased, but still have 6 visible abs, so I'm guessing 12-13%. My diet is paid for from a pro. My training is paid for from a pro. First time using an anabolic other than TRT.

Undertaker's picture

If this is a first cycle 18 weeks way too long. Test E and Test C basically the same think the halflife on test c may be like 3 days longer. You will need to definately run pct. nolva and clomid @40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50 respecdtively. For a first cycle you may want to look at something like this.

Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)
Optional: Weeks 1-4: 30mg of Dbol per day (split in two doses, one pre workout, one 12 hours later)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

Vestevel's picture

Why would I PCT when I'm already on Dr. prescribed TRT?

Undertaker's picture

I am not knowledgeable enough in this area to answer all of your questions. You need to do research on your own or contact one of the vets here to answer these questions. I dont want to give you wrong answers.

Undertaker's picture

Read up on the pct section

Undertaker's picture

At the doses they give you for trt you would not but if your going to step up to 600 mg/week it would be necessary.

Vestevel's picture

Makes no sense to me. My HTPA is completely shut down from TRT. Why would there be a need for PCT? Does PCT do more than restore HTPA function?

Undertaker's picture

Look here as well a lot of good information. http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles

Undertaker's picture

Dont do the dbol

IronMind's picture

He ain't talkin about dbol...he talkin bout H-drol baby! Serious gains there! Lmao...

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Undertaker's picture

Hey sorry my question turned into a war for you yesterday.

IronMind's picture

Naw man don't have to apologize...it was a good discussion/debate that's the main point of a forum...It did get a little out of hand but we've "somewhat" resolved our differences in another post. Thank you for seeing my viewpoint on that subject! He was looking out for you as well and had good intention.

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Undertaker's picture

I was talking about the sample first cycle I posted up there for him.

IronMind's picture

I know just having fun encouraging the use of H-drol instead for serious gains. I remember when I had training wheels and a sippy-cup...H-drol was amazing!

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Undertaker's picture

Hey dude get one of the vets to help you and do some research on your own. I am new on here and don't want to give you bad advise. I have read enough to know that 12.5 mg of Arimidex would take estrogen levels far to low and create multiple problems. Im hoping that dexitrims answer was a typo and he meant Arimidex .5 E3D maybe EOD. Again get advice from some of the vets on here.

Undertaker's picture

Arimidex @12.5 mg E3D????? not good!!don't dp that.

logan's picture

Diet will decide your weight gain, keep it clean, drink lots of water and add some arimadex @.5 every other day to control water retention and adjust as needed. If you find yourself getting to big and you don't want that drop the carbs down increase the protein and do more cardio.