About to start second cycle, need some advice
Hi folks,
As the title says :-)
My first cycle was 600 mg Test E per week for 12 weeks. My second cycle is going to be very close to that, maybe a slight increase in Test. Maybe something like 750-800 per week. My first cycle did not kick until week 9, so basically I got 5 weeks on(Weeks nine though 14), then lost the "on-ness". Now that was one badass 5 weeks. What I need help with is front-load dosage. The formula I have been recommended is 2x cycle dosage for the duration of one half-life. So if I was going to be running 800 per week @ 400mg x 2 on Monday and Thursday, following this formula, I would run 800 for the first 4 pins, because the second Thursday would be 11 days(I know half-life is debatable). I don't want to wait 9 weeks for the cycle to kick. I know that running a higher dosage will decrease the duration of build-up, but who knows how much? (That is rhetorical unless you know the answer :-P) With all this being said, my question is: Is there a more reliable front-load formula than the one I have outlined?
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id bet you will still grow on 500mg/wk. Maybe add an oral kickstart with dbol for the first 4 weeks? If you bump to 800mg/wk for your 2nd cycle, at that rate youll be over a gram per week by your third cycle, this is a marathon, not a sprint bro. Just my 0.02
No question I would grow on 500 per week,but if 600 per week took 9 weeks to kick. 500 per week is going the wrong way. I need advice for getting it to kick faster, hence the front load question.
Need to post up your stats. I've read off your profile but it helps give tailored advice.
Shouldn't need that amount (800mg/wk) of test on 2nd cycle, it's overkill.
I'd be more inclined to kick with test prop, then run test at something like 600mg/wk.
Stats are same as profile. I agree that 800 is overkill for most people. But then most people's cycle will kick in 4-6 weeks on test-e only. Mine didn't kick until week 9. If I use prop as a kicker, am I supposed to kick for 9 weeks? My fear is if I run 600 mg test-e and kick with prop for the normal prop kick duration I will come "off" mid cycle. Does that make sense? Thanks for the advice.
I normally don't "feel" test for about 6 weeks but that doesn't mean it's not doing its stuff. I get where you're coming from, but dont assume that this time will be the same, (different gear etc?). I certainly wouldn't run a prop kick for 9 weeks! 4 weeks typically. You won't "come off". I'd also suggest a double dose week 1 of test e, ie if you're intending to run 600mg/wk then week 1 hit 2x 600mg rather than 2x 300mg. If that doesn't get you rocking before week 9, your gear is crap or you have a medical issue!
Re stats, what I meant was if in future you post them up when asking for advice people can see them easily available.
If you need anything else, feel free to drop me a line if you need to ok?
Thanks bro. Exactly what I needed. I will double week 1. If I was going to kick with prop, would 50 mg EoD for four weeks be too much? Not enough?
Not enough, go 100-150 eod.
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Cliff notes please
i am usally really good at following along, but im lost bro. if i think i get what you were saying wouldnt it be 800mg for the first 5 pins since its 11 days?