Need Insight about Cycle Kick-Start???
I'm about to start my 7th cycle (3rd in the past 1-1/2 years). I'm 41, 6 ft tall and weigh 212lbs with about 14%?? body fat. My upcoming cycle (8-12 weeks long) will mainly consist of Test Cyp 600mg/week and Tren A 50mg/ed. Proviron 25mg/ed. I have Aromasin and Caber to help with Estro and Prolactin issues. I will also be taking 250iu 2x each week of HCG.
My question is: will it be too much to kick start my cycle with both dbol and Test Prop?? I've had great results from both but have always either did one or the other. Will it be too much on my body to do both?? Or would it be better to maybe Kickstart with the dbol (4 weeks) and then use Test Prop the last few weeks??
I have always used Nolva and Clomid for PCT but have been on TRT for the past year.
Any insight would be great. Thx
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RustyhookerGiven your stats and priors I would drop that tren. If bulking go classic. Break out deca or npp.
Not sleeping, hearburn, agitation. ..forgidaboytit.
6ft 7 cycles....whats your actual goal? 225 or more? Thats all food and simple cycle
I definitely agree with you about going classic. I still have time left to decide. My goal is about 225-230. And yes, diet dictates everything. Thx
Tren ace kicks in really fast so a kickstart is not really required. I would replace test c with prop or sustanon but thats up to you. I would get a little more proviron instead of dbol and run it a little higher 50-100mg/ed
Thanks for the input BigThing. I'll def take your advice.
Be careful not to crush your estro if you decide to run provi higher. Keep aro on hand but wait until you need it.
Think this looks like a bit of a mismatch of esters and compounds. Test cyp / tren A / Dbol bulk - not a bulker in my eyes. I see no value in tren A and Dbol together, they contradict each other.
On paper, and according to Dan duchaine, class 1 and class 2 steroids have synergistic effects. So theoretically they shouldn't contradict each other. But I agree, the subq water from dbol will blur out the striations and separations created by trenbolone. Anadrol is a much better choice to stack with tren. All the water stays in the muscle and your skin stays dry and shrink wrapped.
Thx Catalyst.
So you would be doing test p, tren a, and dbol to start the cycle off with. Seems totally uneccessary to me. What is the goal of this cycle supposed to be?
Thanks Makwa. This is going to be my Winter Bulk Cycle. This is why I'm asking the group first about the Kick Start. I'm not going to start without input from you guys. You stated that it would be unnecessary?? For both Prop and Dbol?? Which one would you use?? Or neither??
For me personally, I would go with just good ol prop for a kick. Nothing really beats it IMO. Only time I would use an oral to kick with would be when only using a long ester to help get things rolling. I wouldn't double up on an oral and test p. I can't use dbol though, kills my appetite. My two picks for a kick would be either adrol or test p, but I would't do both of those together for a kicker either.
That makes sense. Thanks Makwa.