Start HCG mid-cycle???
Hey everyone. Have a very important question and even though it's HCG related, I figured it would be best suited to be in this forum. I am currently mid-cycle (7 weeks) of Test CYP 600mg/week, DECA 400mg/week and Dbol 40mg/ed (in 3rd week and just about to end). This is my 7th cycle over the last 16 years.
I always get testicular atrophy really badly but have never really looked into HCG until this cycle and have purchased 10000iu. After a lot of research, I still don't know really what to do. Should I do HCG just for 2 weeks now (to let testes know that they're still alive) and then do it again in the beginning of PCT before Clomid/Nolvadex??? Or should I start now for the last 7 weeks and stay on it going into PCT??
I know I need to do more research but I do want to hear what others think. Like I stated... I am right at mid-cycle and feel that I should at least do it now even its for 2 weeks???
Please help. Thx
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I am on TRT and so I run HCG year round. I use 250IU twice a week and it keeps the boys plump. I know exactly what you mean about shrinkage - though medically atrophy is when they become smaller than raisins. I asked my doctor about it and that was his response. I buy my HCG from a trusted source since he will not prescribe it to me.
Since you do PCT, stop using it when you move to PCT like irongame said. His regimen is a good one to use. If you find they do not plump up after two weeks of 500IU twice a week, keep using the 500 until they do. When they plump back up, drop to the maintenance dose of 250IU twice a week.
Start it immediately... why let things worsen before you try and make it better!
Never too late. It can only help at this point. Run it ASAP.
Thanks man.
Start it now. Deca is really suppressive bro I wouldn't run a 19-nor without hcg. I've been saying this forever but I'm gonna write someting on hcg at some point. The issue with recovery based off the medical studies I've read is not hypothalamus or pituitary orgin meaning after a cycle the hypothalamus starts producing gnrh and the pituitary starts producing LH and FSH fairly quicky. The problem lies in the testes not responding to the LH signal because it has been absent for X amount of weeks and ones leydeg cells ( the cells that receive the LH signal which tells them to produce testosteone) have been lying dormant for so long they become desensitized to this signal and it takes a whole for them to start to respond again. So by using hcg throughout the cycle you get a synthetic version of LH so your balls are never in that dormant state. Hcgs benefits go past keeping them full and big. So start it now. I've done it like this before starting mid cycle and I used a higher dose the first 2-3 weeks like 500ius twice a week to reverse the atrophy and then backed down to 250ius twice a week. Just make sure to stop 4 days before you start pct as hcg is supressive and won't allow recovery until it clears the system.
Thanks irongame! I really appreciate your help. Your reply is what I plan on doing. My only concern, (and please correct me if I am wrong) is I've read that HCG shouldn't be used for longer than 4 weeks because it will cause other desensitization issues??! Like I stated in my post, I do need to do more research but also have been told by many people to start HCG ASAP.
Should I do what you have done... 2-3 weeks at 500iu 2x/week then drop it down to 250iu 2x/week??
Thank you again
I would start it ASAP at 250IU twice a week, Run it up to 3 days prior to the start of your PCT. No need to do more than that. I figure the longer you wait the more atrophied your nuts are gonna get so like i said i would do it ASAP. No need for the two week blast just run it 500IU a week split into 2 shots.
Thank man. Appreciate your feedback. I plan on taking HCG ASAP.
RustyhookerTry last 6 weeks right up to pct. 500 IU split mon and Thursday
I don't agree with the 2 week shotgun hcg dealio. Big controversy that really comes down to your life experiences.
Thanks RustyHooker!!