Need help with a cut cycle.
Stats:
Male
5"9"
205lbs
12%-13% BF
Macros: (rounded)
Sun-Fri, Saturday is re-carb day.
3000 cal
350g PRO
115g CARBS
130g FAT
Clean foods: (This is all I eat, boring but it works)
Protein: eggs, chicken, 98% ground turkey or beef, salmon, sirloin steaks, ISO whey
Carbs: green veggies, oats, blueberries
Fats: peanut butter, cheddar cheese, olive oil
Anabolics.
On TRT for the last year at 200ml of Test C. each week. + 40mg Anavar ED. anastrozole .5mg every 3 days.
Cycle 1 Test C at 400ml for 8 weeks
Cycle 2 Test C at 400ml + Deca 300ml for 8 weeks.
I did not do PCT just went back on TRT + 50mg Proviron
I ran the cycles back to back, went from 170lbs to 215lbs (no bs)
I do blood work every 3 months, so far everything is in order, test good, estradiol low, prolactin fine, lipids good,
I work out 5 days a week, cardio 3x15 min after workout. Cardio will go up every 2 weeks by 5 min.
On hand I have:
Primobolan Enanthate
Anavar
Winstrol
Test C
Test E
Test P
I have All PCT on hand if needed.
My goal is to do a show in June. I will not start the cycle until I get down to at least 10% BF
I do not want to run Tren or Deca.
I was thinking.
Primo 60mg ED 1-12 week
Winy 50mg ED 6-12 week
Test E. 200ml Every week 1-12
Should I add something? Do I need to front load anything? Taper anything up or down? Add stims? (clen, ephedra)
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I wouldnt start 2 new compounds at once. Winny and primo....
Youve done test and deca and provi before....
So Id stick to what youve ran and maybe through in 1 new compound.
Masteron is usualy a safe bet.
For your show maybe something like this .
test at 400-500mg week 1-10 last 2 weeks prop
anavar 50ed
masteron 400wk
If you wanted to do winny last 4 weeks go for it but again, 2 new compounds.
arimidex on hand although the mast should help
My advice is to post a picture of yourself so some of our guys that compete can see what you are working with. I don't know anything about show prep so hopefully one of them will chime in. Your stats are good but your AAS usage is dangerous. You need to dial it back some. Running Anavar for 2 months is just fucking stupid. If it isn't just a sugar pill, your lipids are completely fucked. You shouldn't add more than 1 new compound per cycle so you actually know what is going on. You say you have all PCT on hand, why? You are on TRT.........
Pic is up in my profile.... Blast away.
Diet: Protein looks good, you might consider lowering fats to around 72g, and raising carbs to make up the caloric difference. Furthermore, you might consider running a carb cycle program. I've done carb cycling a few times with wonderful results. It's not far fetched to drop from 12% to 10% in couple months or less. Drink no less than 1.5 gallons of water per day.
AAS: My favorite cut cycle is 350 test p, 630 tren ace, and 700 mast p (weekly dosages) for 10 weeks. Caber, adex, prostate support like beta sitosterol. With the tren i start at 525 per week and ramp up to as high as 700. Remember, tren can have wicked sides, and each user seems to get sides from those of other users. Trestolone (MENT) may be a good alternative to tren. I have not used it, yet (September 2017), but a couple friends have used it with fantastic results. Also, NPP, can be used in place of tren, diet must be tight though, and couple it with stanolone for killer hardening.
Good luck
I have no intention of running tren ever.
The OP has run TWO cycles and your advice is 700mg of tren and mast? OR Ment? Horrible advice.
Nope, was only stating what worked for me. Was really suggesting a 350/525/700 test, tren, mast. Looks like i went on a tangent. I'll be more careful in the future. My bad.
I realize what you said, but people will take what you write as a go ahead. Just tailor advice to people's levels. We're all about Safety and longevity. Thanks for responding and acknowledging what you said. +2
Got it. I'm not used to this type of setting, the whole online thing. Thank you for the acknowledgement, and i will be much more attentive to the question, and who's asking. I do have a quick learning curve. I remember wh err n i would read one thing, and think, "shit, that's it!" Only to find out i was either not ready for it, or just plain did it all wrong. For example, my first test p cycle, no ai, no pct no nothing. Pinning with slins. Lucky i didn't end up with tits. Got my gear from dude that my friends friend knew from a gym somewhere. Live and learn. And, i certainly do NOT want to guide someone down a rabbit hole of no return. Glad this misstep was caught early on. Goid job mods for catching my bs! Probably saved a dude a world of crap!
probably not going to get any real advice on the topic of a Primo cut cycle?
Um is this doctor supervised trt or self prescribed? Have you been on anavar for a whole year? Diet and training will dictate what direction your body goes, not a grab bag of various hormones.
Doctor supervised trt. I have been on Anavar for about 2 months. Started with 20mg. I am up to 40mg and planning to stay there until March. If it was a crab bag then I would have, EQ, Tren, Deca, and drostanolone.
4 months of orals is asking for trouble. Var may allegedly mild, but I promise you it's not and you should stop immediately. You've basically ran one 16 week cycle of test with deca thrown in for 8 weeks and now you want someone to sign off on a second cycle with what 3-4 compounds? Not to mention what stims to throw in? If your truly on trt then you won't need anything else to cut down to ~10%. I would suggest reading more on this site in the meantime and using the search function. You only get one shot with your body so maybe focus on not melting your organs?
lol, thanks, I will keep that in mind. Like I stated before I do blood work every 3 months that an endocrinologist reviews with me.
I GUARANTEE if your liver values aren't elevated after 2 months on anavar.....then you aren't running anavar
baring in mind doctor prescribed anavar came in 2.5mg tablets and we're still toxic to the liver
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I'd love to see your liver values after three months of var! Good luck with that.
6 weeks at 50mg a day and 500mg of TUDCA split and my liver values were normal. That's why liver support is so important. Now my lipids. Holy shit. My doc had a mini freak out. We've seen them get hammered before when using an oral on cycle but this was next levels stuff. Will see where they are in 10 weeks time when I retest. Fully confident they will be fine but just goes to show you.
Liver support is helpful, But no guarantee. Bloods are key.
I just don't like it when people say that anavar is "mild" and think they can run it for months. It can do some serious damage. The older I get, the worse it is. I don't do any orals anymore. Not with the risk.
sure I will post my labs at the end of next month.
I will be eagerly waiting