posted Sun, 02/10/2013 - 04:28
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need help on how to dose next cycle
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What to do 10 week cycle of test e,Eq,anavar, nolva,& hcg. Don't know if I need anything else please help
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Thank you so much guess I was doing every thing wrong.
15% I ran each one for 10 weeks
Thanks for the reply. I've got issues with all of your cycles, which i will outline before i proceed to recommend you a cut/lean mass cycle.
Cycle 1
- Where's the testosterone in your cycle? Testosterone should be the base of all cycles to maintain sexual function and optimise recovery.
- First cycle should have been test only.
- EQ is long estered compound, which means that it takes approximately 9 weeks for a sufficient amount of that compound to build up in your system and become effective for building mass (unless the compound is front-loaded). So effectively, you got 1 week worth of growth from that compound, which is a waste of your time and money to say the least.
- No sign of an AI.
- No sign of liver protectors.
- No sign of clomid in PCT.
Cycle 2
- EQ is long estered compound, which means that it takes approximately 9 weeks for a sufficient amount of that compound to build up in your system and become effective for building mass (unless the compound is front-loaded). So effectively, you got 1 week worth of growth from that compound, which is a waste of your time and money to say the least.
- No sign of an AI.
- No sign of liver protectors.
- No sign of clomid in PCT.
- What's ahchoo?
Cycle 3
- EQ is long estered compound, which means that it takes approximately 9 weeks for a sufficient amount of that compound to build up in your system and become effective for building mass (unless the compound is front-loaded). So effectively, you got 1 week worth of growth from that compound, which is a waste of your time and money to say the least.
- No sign of an AI <---this is especially important when using hCG, since hCG increases the aromatisation activity levels of estrogen.
- No sign of liver protectors.
- No sign of clomid in PCT.
Cycle 4
- Waaaaay to soon to be using tren especially given your previous cycle history.
- No sign of an AI <---this is especially important when using hCG, since hCG increases the aromatisation activity levels of estrogen.
- No sign of liver protectors.
- No sign of clomid in PCT.
- EQ is long estered compound, which means that it takes approximately 9 weeks for a sufficient amount of that compound to build up in your system and become effective for building mass (unless the compound is front-loaded). So effectively, you got 1 week worth of growth from that compound, which is a waste of your time and money to say the least.
Cycle 5
-Out of all of your cycles, this is probably the most sensible/approapriate of cycles - even though there are many issues with it.
- No sign of an AI <---this is especially important when using hCG, since hCG increases the aromatisation activity levels of estrogen.
- No sign of liver protectors.
- No sign of clomid in PCT.
Preface
- An AI is mandatory for all cycles, in the same way that PCT is mandatory for all non-TRT users. - You can either use Arimidex or Aromain, both are perfectly acceptable forms of AI for this cycle. Adex 0.25mg E3D, Asin 12.5mg EOD, and increase the dosage if sides appear.
Why Clomid
Clomid is mandatory for PCT. Run it at 100/100/50/50. Clomid gets your testes working again:
How your testis make natural testosterone.
(REMEBRER TESTOSTERONE DOES TURN INTO ESTROGEN THAT’S WHY WE TAKE AI's)
Leyding cells(your testis)---->make Natural Test------>(some turns into estrogen)-------------->pituitary Gland(Makes LH)----LH goes to------>Leyding cells(testis)make Natural Test--------and the process starts again...
If you have too much estrogen well now there will be too much estrogen hitting pituitary so the pituitary cannot make LH—no LH than your Testis can’t make test..Which is what happens after Cycle.
How Clomid works during PCT when your Testis can’t do shit.
Leyding cells(your testis)---->make Natural Test(some turns into estrogen)---which isn’t happing cause they are shut down and LH is not hitting your testis----------->Clomid blocks estrogen from hitting the pituitary(now the pituitary can make LH)---->pituitary Gland(Makes LH)----LH goes to------>Leyding cells makes Natural Test(your testis start to come alive)--------and the process starts again the correct way..because Clomid it blocking estro and your testis are coming back online.
Why an AI
Taking into consideration that our androgen levels are well in excess while on cycle, the fact arises that the potential for excess estrogen dramatically increases. By allowing estrogen levels to rise uncontrollably, we are opening ourselves up to a host of symptoms associated with high estrogen. Outside of the risks of gyno, there is also the concern of sexual dysfunction. How many times do we see comments or reviews where a lesser experienced user is claiming bunk gear due to decreased of libido? Often times digging a little deeper into the cycle log or history of this individual, we will find an improper cycle and AI issues. Although some of the symptoms are minor, with gyno and libido issues being the greatest concern, there is no need IMO to experience any of these sides if they can be avoided. Considering that once you have gyno, the only way to get rid of it is through surgical removal, we should realize that these sides are much easier to prevent than they are to reverse. The AI’s main role here is to achieve greater hormonal balance and provide control for the user so as to avoid the occurrence of sides. AI: as needed or necessary? (By: Dossier and P)
Here's when I dose;
-AI's > Aromasin: In the Morning
-PCT > Clomid: Throughout the day
-PCT > Nolva: At Night
Why:
Free testosterone has reached a peak in the late morning until around mid-day when the sun has risen, this is why you wake up with 'morning wood'); so to capitalise upon the daily peaks in your free testosterone, I dose my aromasin in the morning. This will prevent any peaks in my estrogen throughout the day (since its half life is ~27 hours) and it will also further increase the amount of free testosterone in my system, since aromasin removes the binded testosterone from your sex hormone binging globulin (SHBG).
I dose my clomid throughout the day, because clomid is highly surpressive, it gets me emotional if i take a high dose all at once. Also i want to keep my blood levels as stable as possible to prevent any further sides.
My nolvadex dose is taken before i go to bed at night, since this is when estrogen is peaked in the human body. Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen, so while im sleeping, the estrogen is under control, which also aids my testosterone peaks the next morning.
I suggest you read this pre-cycle protocol article before you consider running your next cycle
Pre-Cycle Protocol
Diet is key to getting below your 15% BF%
Diet
Diet is key - you will read this time and time again on the forums and the reason why its mentioned so often is because it is true. AAS increases your recovery rate, but if you actually want to add some lean muscle into the mix you need to eat right. You also need to find what works best for your body - copying an IFBB pro's diet is great, but if your body doesn't respond to certain macro-nutrient ratios and wholefoods (which are high in lactose, example) then you are not optimizing your diet. Finding which foods work for you is takes time through increasing the understanding you have with your body. This will help you identify which foods you should eat at what time. It will also increase your understanding of your body's natural limit, while also understanding how your body reacts to carbs, protein and fat sources in order to reach your daily macro-nutrient intake limits.
Regardless of how much AAS compounds you pump yourself with, without proper nutrition the simple maintenance of the muscle mass you've worked hard over in the gym and resting will deplete. Therefore a subjective understanding of pre training nutrition in addition to post training nutrition should be fully understood to ensure your body is kept in an anabolic environment.
Cycle 6: Suggestion
Week 1-16 Test E 300mg/wk
Week 1-16 EQ 600mg/wk (Frontload @ 1200mg for first 2 weeks)
Week 17-19 Test Prop/Ace 50mg/ED
Week 3-19 Aromasin 12.5mg/EOD (increase dosage if sides appear).
Week 8-18 hCG 500iu/wk (See: How To Reconstitute hCG Peptide (Step-by-step guide w/Pictures!)
Week 20-23 Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25 (mg/ED)
Week 20-23 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Week 20-23 Clomid 100/100/50/50
This will provide you with the lean mass you're looking for, while also having the ability to help reduce your BF%, which is ultimately dependent on your diet, see the Pre-Cycle Protocol link above on how to achieve this.
A lot of great information and that is a great cycle! You went way above and beyond!
Great answer mate, a lot of people will appreciate that. +1
good job P +3
1st was Eq & dbol, nolva
2nd test e,Eq,stanozl tabs,nolva,&ahchoo
3rd test e,anadral,Eq,nolva,&hcg
4th test e,tren a,Eq,nolva,&hcg
5th just test e,nolva,&hcg
Ok, whats your BF%? and what length did you run each cycle for?
This is my 5 cycle want to lean out a little more
Can you list your previous cycles, so i can see what compounds you used in each cycle and the length you ran each compound in that cycle.
Ok, i've got a few questions i need to ask you before i make you a tailor made cycle;
Stats
Age: 33
Height: 5 10
Weight: 220
BF: ?
Cycle history?
Goals?