razorramon's picture
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need advice for 2nd cycle

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Im just getting ready to finish my first cycle of dbol 50mg a day and Test E 600mg,went from 200lbs to 212.
i need some ideas for my next cycle,im looking to gain more mass and also more definition,i need to lose some more body fat, i really need some Quality gains.
maybe some tren ace ,test 400,and oxy,is there some other ideas out there,and how would i do the cycle?

nick9221's picture

Yea I'm up 10 lbs in less than a week.. its my first cycle and thats just with test e.. I don't know that the test e is responsable I'm just saying that I agree that he should have gained more.

Dafreezeman's picture

with that cycle of 50mg dbol ed and 600mg of test/wk being ur fist cycle you should have blown up and gained alot more than 12 lb.(what lab was the gear from) bunk?. hows ur diet (key) and your workout like? and any PCT??

razorramon's picture

got gear from ukss,diet is right on,work out are pyramids starting with lighter weight, end w heavy wieght and low rep eod,was thinking of forgeting the post and jump in to my next cycle?

Dafreezeman's picture

Bro def agree with kwabby....something was wrong. Do ur pct and I'm sure you can get help here for ur next cycle....good luck

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kwabby6's picture

idk bro, dont want to flame so i'll try to go about this the peaceful way. only gaining 12lb alone doesn't seem right for your first cycle for one reason alone; the Dbol. on the Dbol alone you should have gained atleast close to 20 (yes with water as well as muscle). I'll go on to say something was lacking somewhere in this area:

1.Diet
2.Training
3.Bunk Gear

I would rule out number 3 only cause I hear nothing but good things from UKSS's gear so it either had to be your training or diet. also please read the next sentence very carefully. DO NOT JUMP ONTO YOUR NEXT CYCLE WITHOUT DOING PCT UNLESS YOUR HEALTH AND YOUR TESTICLES MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO YOU!!! even people who are on TRT who do blast and cruises dont jump into another cycle immediately. Do pct protocol, Wait Time on+PCT= Time off or somewhere close to there then do your next cycle.

razorramon's picture

In your opinion,what is a good pct,and how long should i take before starting my next cycle ,and thanks for the lecture,it put some sinse into it.

kwabby6's picture

theres no "good" PCT seeing as its standard. most either run:

Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20

or Clomid: 50/50/25/25

Some even run both for a better recovery.

Also dont run your next cycle until you do Time on+PCT=Time off. No offense but did you do ANY research before you went sticking a needle in your ass? lol here read these. it'll have ALL you need to know bro.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?402776-You-ll-want-to-read-this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?368656-Newbies-Starter-Pack-Rev...

Enjoy!

razorramon's picture

That's exactly why I come through the here to check what the crowd has to say, thanks