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My take on cycle steps

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This isnt advice which is why i put it in off topic, this is my take on cycle steps and my logic behind each one. Vets are more than welcome to voice their opinions. Seeing as im not a vet, id like to note that no first timer should take this immediately and roll with it. But instead just think about it.

cycle 1- Welcome to the darkside.
"Understand the basics."

Test E/C 500mg 2/week for 12 weeks. running AI about 3-4 weeks into cycle and finishing with proper post.
Clomid/Nolva/Aromasin

logic: 1)understanding testosterone and how it works with your body.2) Understanding basic site rotations and injection technique. 3) understanding the importance of the best tool in your tool box and that is food. 4) Grasping the importance of PCT. Should you fail this final step, revert back to basics and start over, no sense in throwing in another compound if you cant maintain your gains with a basic test cycle. 5) patience. This isnt a race, its a marathon. Running tren your first cycle is outright foolish and shows how impatient you are.

Cycle 2- Assuming you kept some of your gains after a well executed PCT. if not, back to cycle 1.
"Understanding a kicker"

Depending on how comfortable you are with your pinning technique.

Either A) Prop kicker weeks 1-4 100mg EOD
B) an oral such as tbol -40mg/day
With Test E/C 500-600mg/week weeks 1-12
Again proper AI throughout cycle and PCT Nolva/Clomid/Aromasin

logic:1) Understand how a kicker such as prop or an oral affects your body. 2)Assuming you went with (A) you are comfortable enough with multiple site injections and your technique in pinning. now understand the importance of site rotation and the prevention of scar tissue build-up. If you went (B) thats fine as well. Not everyone is comfortable jumping into pinning EOD. But understand how an oral affects you. I.E strength gains, water retention(depending on oral), blood pressure. etc.

Im in a bit of a rush so if what im writing doesnt sound absolutely crazy to you i can continue with my logic behind further cycles later. but for now i need to go watch some football!!!

Again isnt advice, just my take on cycles.

Nitti's picture

It still belongs in cycles section. I'm moving it.

avocado13's picture

75mg to 100 mg of anadrol? I dropped anadrol out of my cycle completely because blood pressure was getting out of control and I was only taking 50mg

youngtricep98's picture

my blood pressure was perfect while i was on anadrol. factored into that probably was bf % and water retention. that was my personal experience with drol. probably should have listed drol or dbol for that matter. ill edit and stick to what i originally recommend.(tbol)

Catalyst's picture

Anadrol on second cycle is not something I would agree with.

youngtricep98's picture

The toxicity I find is blown out of proportion. Again I recommend tbol but the base of my logic is to understand a kicker. I've seen vets recommending deca as a second cycle. Or using prop as a kicker on their first cycle. To me that doesn't make sense to just jump into pinning EOD for your first cycle.

youngtricep98's picture

Well I personally don't like dbol. I'd recommend tbol. But var to kickstart isn't logical unless running a short estered cycle.