posted Sat, 09/03/2011 - 09:18
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Interesting read about Short cycles
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What are your guys thoughts on this?
I couldnt copy paste.
http://www.silownia.net/steroids/a/12221
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I'm a big fan of 4 week cycles, especially if your into endurance training. Me I have to stay on my endurance for work, so these short cycles are money, but I'm not a body builder. I know there was a thread about "Cycles for Runners" which really don't exist, because of the painful pumps one cannot run say 5 miles without serious pumps. I can take a 4 week cycle cut my running down while on cycle and pick it back up during my PCT. The PCT stuff can give you leg cramps but with enough bananas and water its fine. Of course like the article mentioned use short esters, I know ive seen great results. Try it with proper PCT its like always being on cycle but not lol. Guys I work with make fun of my 4 weekrs but when they're cycling off after one I'm cycling off after a 2nd go. This is just my experience.
Good info. I had looked into that for quite some time before stumbling across the 2 weeks on/2 weeks off info by Bill Roberts. It's pretty much the same premise, just a shorter cycle. There is a very good read in this thread about a European style of cycling similar to the 2 on/2 off. Good stuff. It starts at the 8th post down and continues through the 9th post.
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performanc...
i, personally, like the concept and try and get 2 (if not 3) shorts and 1 (winter) long cycle per year. i don't need to get fancy or complicated with my cycles, in fact, after this last experience my shorts will simply be test p/tren a... you guys can mix n match all you want, i know what works for me
AnonIn general the short cycle concept limits the steroid choices one has. What results would one get from a 6 week primo cycle? Npp is a good compound for such a cycle but i found that you loose the results way to easily. Imo this concept is only optimal if you like dbol which in the end if you ever try to take a year off from cycling you are bound to loose all your gains. Much prefer longer runs myself and also nothing beats blast and cruising no matter how good you plan a cycle long or short, so no difference which ever route one chooses. As long as you are not cruising you will loose your gains either way. Another worry with this, how much clomid you will be taking a year and nolva? Those meds should be used sparingly with the 4 week off 4 week on concept you will be on clomid half a year. I wouldnt do that even if they paid me lol
discovered these the other day too. they are called "Shic cycles" its actually recommended for people who cycle as we do and not professional bodybuilders. Google it theres alot of talk about it.
I like this concept and it makes alot of sense if your not a body builder.
AnonYeah i think its good.
If you have get bad sides on Tren you can stick it out because its only 4 weeks.
hmm i might give it a go
Wish, I think it's really interesting. I have only ever done long cycles. I just don't have the discipline to come off. If I have a bottle, I'm pinning. Using this methodology would help me stick to coming off for a bit. Next time, I'm trying this. I've never really taken short ester compounds though. D-Bol scares me. I wonder what other compounds could be used?
My other problem is that I really like deca. It's analgesic and healing properties really help my joints and recovery. Of course it's a long acting ester which doesnt work with this strategy. Looking forward to other thoughts.
Never heard the scared of Dbol one before...lol thats weird cause we're total opposites. Im TERRIFIED of how long people take to recover from Deca therefore im stearing clear of the 19 nors for a bit but Dbol is nice to me. no water bloat, sensitive nips, shutdown. all strength
I guess I'm uncomfortable with the thought of my body (liver) having to breakdown a compound like D-Bol so quickly. It's hard on the liver. I'm not asserting that it's necessarily bad for you, but injecting, depending on the toxicity of the compound, is an infinitely safer delivery method. That's why I don't do Orals. It's a matter of preference...Also, I'm an older guy so my particular concerns may be a bit different than yours. lol.
Incidentally, deca really doesn't affect me like that. Hahahaha we are total opposites! Obviously everyone's physiology is different and maybe your body would be particularly susceptible to a prolonged rebound. It's a valid concern kwabby.... you find out what works best for you right?
Cheers
oh so the liver scare factor has gotten to you...dbol being bad for you liver is SO overrated, its scary. your liver breaking down dbol is bout as bad as your liver having to break down motrin(actually pretty sure its worse for your liver breaking down motrin) but yes I agree on the fact that everybody has different goals and different reasons for using certain compounds. I will def try deca some day but not having my functioning dick for over 2 months is not worth it. BUT I am on the younger side right now and it may be better to run it sooner than later...
So the Deca Dick tale has gotten to you? Run at 1000mgs...maybe. Run at 300mgs....No way. My first cycle ever was 200 mgs of dec all by its lonesome. I fucked like a rabbit regardless.
You try deca and I'll try d-bol....?
AnonI think the best compounds to use is
Test Prop and Tren Ace.