posted Fri, 09/06/2013 - 15:00
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How much and how often???
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I'm going to be doing a cycle of the following:
Nandrolone Deca - 100mg/mL
Test Prop - 100mg/mL
Mast P - 300mg/ml (I'm assuming they're sending me P - it did not specify on the website. Please advise how often i should pin E as well just in case.)
Gonna be taking Caber and Aromasin throughout the cycle, and PCT with Nolv and Clomid.
Age: 27
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 220
BF: Unkown Maybe 15-20.
How often should I pin these and how much? Can i combine some of them into the same syringe or do i have to pin separately?
Thanks for all of your help for this newbie!!!!
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Rustyhookerhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/cycle-help-12
MakaveliCD7Sometimes the best lessons are hard learned and often seen going up in flames....hes more than likely to b prophecy fulfilled with my proverb lol
Hahahahaha..... massive thread full of superb advice and the OP never came back... even fkn once!
been here all along d-bag. Just haven't seen the need to respond to the back and forth between everyone. Every person has their on opinions when it comes to gear and pct. I've decided to put this stuff on the shelf for now, and order some sust and winny. simple easy stack. Had zero sides from the prop and anavar I used before so i'm confident my sides will be minimal, but i will have AI's on hand and already have clomid and nolv on it's way for pct. Thanks to everyone else for their help!
Maybe referring to one if ours mods as "d bag" isn't the smartest move to make when you've just joined?
I'm just calling it like I see it. If he had bothered to read down the page he would have seen that I have been actively posting in this thread. Instead he just decided to be a D-BAG!!!
That kinda shit earned you a couple neg's. one things for sure, respect goes a long way, and this isn't how you earn it brutha
Sorry man. Respect is earned, and I give back what is being given to me. You, I respect. A lot of others on here I do not.
I feel you bro... Admin team works hard to make sure this site stays up and running and that ourselves are kept safe while on it. Vike paid his dues 20 x over. Although he's a geezer (just fucking with ya vike), he puts 99% of Eroids to shame. When it comes to the fundamentals of dieting and training, he knows his shit for real. Compounds and stacks also, but that's not what you need right now. So, the man deserves his respect. Don't be surprised when people get defensive for that remark you made towards him, or if you wind up on a temporary ban.
hold up there. viking is the go to guy for diet, training, and cycle advice. he may come off as an asshole sometimes, but he only speaks the truth. you have been given great advice and you just flat out wont take it. I gave you the link to the beginner cycle forum and you still will not listen. do you know the sides common with winny? do you know if you will need to raise or lower your A.I. while taking winny? NO you don't. we are trying to get you on the right path and you refuse.
Actually, I have taken everyone's advice to put the original stuff on the shelf for now and do something simpler. I'm just NOT going to do a test only cycle. My goal isn't just growth. I need to lose BF as well. That means different diet, more cardio and yes, WINNY. The only way i will learn how it affects me is to take it and see. I am prepared with my AI's and my PCT. If you want to help then give me some advice on what i should look out for while on Winny (For those whove taken it). I don't want to be a giant like you. I want to be lean and cut.
dude I went up to 1200 mg of test for a friendly comp a few months ago click on my user name and take a look at my cut legs.I also was taking d-bol which is known for bloat. those pics are a good example of how important diet is. winny wont do shit if your diet is not up to par.
If you read my previous post i listed "Different diet" as the number one thing for cutting, but I want a boost in dropping BF. that = winny on top of a dialed-in diet...
I guess you will just have to find out for your self. good luck to you.
juice12345678Ya man....at least someone else will see the advice when using the search
First day of Tren a / prop and possible Dbol
I will possibly be another person in a few days so apologies to everyone in advance
RustyhookerHe went to groups...beginner cycles if i saw correct. Doss will learn him correct.
He hasn't responded to me a single time since I posted that response in the group. That's why I posted it here, bc he was responding here. Still, no answer.. We'd all like to get him on track but its his call.
RustyhookerTried to send him your way in Groups because it shows all the reasoning in straightforward manner.
Now he's up top busy calling Vike a douchebag. I'm done here
I'm so sad... Don't leave. Please, No!!!! hahaha.
RustyhookerI'll still be here after you get your troll tag. You're just another one of those lil babies who dropped money and now having your lil tantrum. Whenever your diapers are changed and you get the wee wil bottle of milk....man the ef up. You thought you'd drop in and school someone? You bought it. Live n learn....
I thought you were done? Just be the child you are, take your ball and go home.
https://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles/please-help-with-this-cycle
MakaveliCD7Thats real talk right there Dossy!!!
AnonI seem to be buying a new mattress yearly.
This is the fucking worst.
i had to get a padded mattress cover that i can wash. a/c on 65 at night, fan blowing, half nekid, sheet or no sheet; don't matter...
I think u have some reading to do first dude. Most people can't just grab up a handful of compunds and pin them and get excellent result. Some people r lucky and get away with a jumbled up mess of compound or a dbol only cycle. U such as myself may be gyno sensitive and before u know it have a nice set of tits when u really wanted muscle. Muscles with tits don't look good on a man no matter how u stack. Do some research on long esters, short esters, look up steroid profiles, estrogen, anti estrogen, prolactin, look over other peoples cycle to help get a better idea of what compund r run with one another, bulking compunds, cutting compund, and diet just to name some. Read all u can before that first pin and u will be so much more please with tgo results, and want be as likely to grow those tits I mention earlier. I once thought juicing and getting big was just a matter of sticking a pin in my ass or popping dbol tabs. I WAS WRONG! I am not a pro by any means but I have came a long way and gained a lot of knowledge through it.
JuiceFreak+1
AnonGood advice +1
Dude.. You know gym rats and homework are oxymoron's... I'm surprised your laptop didn't burst into flames when you typed that well thought out response!
Patience isn't a virtue that the average gym rat comes equip with.. Trial and error.. I figured that out five years ago on my 2nd cycle when the combo I took shut me down for two weeks.... cyst.. flu like symptoms.. muscles aches from hell...
Good advice Stretch..
Well the way I see it u can only get out of it what u put into. So in saying that. These gym rats need to do their homework which will in return make them more productive gym raya. I have had a couple of trial and error cycles in the past, but I working and hoping this next upcoming cycle will be the bomb for me. My laptop didn't melt down on either of these reply but now the keys on this phone r starting to warm up abit.
I agree with the bulk of the responses..
Get some Test E or Sus 250 with Deca 200.. Long active life.. Pin every 3 days...
I've used Mas.. I wouldn't recommend touching it until you BF is down in the LOW teens..
My big question I have is what is the result you are trying to achieve?
No 19 nors on a first cycle test only.
EDIT: Just saw doss' replies and he's 100% right.
wrong... that's a big negative from me for advising a 19 to a newb
@dossier31 I've been running that combo for over 5 years.. works for me.. that my experience dude.. I'm not a chemist.. but I know what I LIKE.... I'm just throwing out my feedback.. This is a forum no?
Is that ok Dr. Dossier? Or should I run ALL of my response by you?
RustyhookerYou need to learn quickly that the vets will NOT stand by and let a first timer get jacked up with BS advice.
Check your ego....
AnonBrother chill with being so defensive man. Unfortunately you and what has worked for you is not the subject at hand, it guiding a newbie down the right path. Chill out on Dossier and spend some more time on forums learning how we bring people along.
you should have enough sense, esspecially in you 5 years of "experience", that certain shit aint for certain people. it is a forum tho, and it has a nice way of screening itself and keeping certain things in check. something you'll learn soon enough, i'm sure
@dossier31 I don't know what's for HIM or for YOU.. I know what's for ME.. We are on an anonymous forum.. ANYONE ON THIS FORUM HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO TAKE ALL RESPONSES WITH WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.. that DR. Dossier is common sense...
If you want to add an alternative point of view to my response or even a correction is fair.. But the way you come of Sir is truly something you need to KEEP IN CHECK..
Good day Dr. Dossier.. Newbie is out! I gotta pin my Dec/Sus combo before a turn on Sex in the City..
lmao!! thanks for the neg too, sweetie! don't think it worked tho. ;)
i negged you for your poor advice, not because you're panties knotted up. enjoy the show, sweet cheeks
I don't know any Nandrolone Decanoate that is 100mg. You sure this isn't Nandrolone Phenylpropionate?
Rustyhookerpharma grade origionally came as 100Mg/ml
juice12345678Deca isn't really used for leaning....(with proper diet anything can be done....but not typical)
Deca is also a a long estered AAS
Test. prop. Means you'll have to pin yourself EOD for roughly 12 - 16 weeks....because it's a fast acting ester....not easy
Mast. P isn't something you use in conjunction with Deca. (This one is also a short ester)
Basically ALL of this is wrong for you brother....
Test. E would have been something to do on a first cycle (test p could also be done but again....it takes a certain kind of tenacity to keep up with the injections)
that's a helluva run for prop... lol
RustyhookerDeca works quite well for cutting.
Mast p is excellent with deca
Suggest you research a lil.. Test E only for first cycle is correct.
juice12345678Also....
WHY would you mix esters?
Keep shorts with shorts and long with longs....
So you'll pin Deca Monday / Thursday and mast p EOD.
Again....just so weird
RustyhookerI personally always shout on here about matching Esters. Shorts as kickers that match longs. Or run fully short 6-10 weeks
juice12345678Disagree....proper diet will help anything be a cutter....I agree with that....
Deca is big on bloat man....I don't care about proper caber / prami protocol or ai use....
I've gotten to a big 250 Lbs. at 5"10 with Deca.
Mast. is amazing with Tren / prop.
Just a very weird combination of Deca and mast in my opinion
RustyhookerDiet always dictates goals. Thats rule #1
As far as deca and cutting....that's where you need more research. Click on Vikings name....click his forum on mast. Obviously my skills appear subpar to you so maybe try that route.
Also click on Viking picture. Shredded! And then read how much deca he's running with no bloat whatsoever.
juice12345678That's fair....
I'm all for learning more....don't want you to think I'm negating what you say etc.
Viking is also a bit of a freak haha
Guy runs Anadrol at like 400 mg a day for 3 years straight and is alive to tell the story haha (j/k)
I'll check it out....
I need to post some pics and get some cred. Haha