posted Mon, 07/27/2015 - 07:01
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High Tren and equipose
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Just curious on these two together. What would happen. Example. Cardio suppression gone? Hermitic and rbc galore turning blood into syrup basically. Just very curious. Hopefully some vets can fill me in please don't bash because I'm not running this. Just very curious on the two together. Ad course a low dose of test with it. On paper it sounds like it would be a great idea.
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ive ran the two together. bp will go up. i found the EQ raised my endurance considerably even with tren along side. could just keep on going in the gym. my iron and hematocrit was just inside range but when i bled my blood was THICK and RED. clotted very easily. like syrup. so the rbc count combination of the two can be dangerous. donating blood or self bleeding can remedy this. also eq can cause raised anxiety at higher doses, which imo eq has to be run at a higher dose or its not worth my time. and tren can cause anxiety for some people.
some people hate on EQ. i think its because it only shows its magic on an already well developed physique. if you dont have an already impressive physique eq wont do anything for you. what eq does is polish off and make an already great body just pop more, and give it a complete polished look. it also makes my skin look very nice. i look more tan and obviously, more vascular. its one of my favorite looks any AAS can give. people who hate on eq just dont know whats up. they need to be filled with water and up 20lbs on the scale to think theyre getting anything out of their cycle. smh but tren and eq is simply an amazing combination ime. never looked better thn when i ran high tren, high eq, high anavar with low test
looked better thn when i ran high tren, high eq, high anavar with low test
can you share that cycle ?
Sure, keep in mind. I'm not recommending you do this. I get blood taken often and know what I'm doing. If you don't have experience with these compounds don't run them at the dose and duration i did. Don't be dumb
Started off my blast with test e at 250, npp 200, eq 300 EOD. After 10 weeks dropped my test down to 300/week. Kept the eq at 1050mg dropped out npp and added in tren at 100mg Ed. Then for the last 6 weeks of that blast added in Anavar at 100mg Ed. By the end of that blast I had never looked better
dontgivemeadviceDamn brother. Those are some hefty doses !!
Well I tolerate anabolics well. I didn't get one pimple through that whole cycle. All that was needed was 12.5mg of aromasin per day and then none at all when I dropped down the test. No caber needed either. Even with higher doses all I see is increased size, Strength, recovery, and quality of te muscle the higher I go. If your body tolerates it and bloods go back to baseline within weeks of stopping why not? Where some advocate, use as little as possible to see results. True but I have yet to see diminishing returns in running higher doses so therefore I run what I do.
Test E or Cyp / Tren E / EQ can be run on a long bulking cycle with nice results. I think it's a cycle for very seasoned users especially depending on cycle length and dosing. You can expect all the adverse effects detailed below in varying degrees. My only contribution here is that this is not an odd stack to run at all. All long esters. You can get fancy and kick the test with prop and kick the Tren E with Tren A and kick the EQ with short ester boldenones or front load it, etc. and so forth but on a long run I generally don't bother with all that. LOL Starting a cycle with 6 different oils is a bit out of control, even for me. But, I will run a peptide hormone stack along with this.
dontgivemeadviceI knew gear head would pop up !!!
The more research I do on these compounds from what I've already learned and plus the new stuff and looking at from different forms I think would be a crazy good bulk cycle.
Start from base
Test. Well it's needed in every cycle so duh...
EQ medium dose- makes me a hungry mess. Throw in a little ghrp6 and mod grf and I will eat a whole cow. Literally. Still alive. But back to the point. EQ medium dose. Prob donate blood 1-3 times depending on how I feel. Last time I ran EQ is the first time ever I had rope like veins coming out everywhere. Another was my cardio felt great. Never winded except if I ate too much.
Tren e- used it last winter I think at a meager 400 mg a week. Though it was bunk but still continues it. Week 8 I looked amazing. I though it was fake because I had no side eggs like ace. Just sweat a lot and wake up soaked. I do that shot normally anyhow. Plus I am on a ton of sleep Meds. I ant sleep with tren or without it.
All the kicker stuff I may do just because I have it laying around. Who knows. Have too see prob do a 6/800 day zero front load just because I haver have front loaded before. It will be a 15-20 week run and prob tren the entire time. Just depends on aides at such a high dosage.
All the other stuff. Letro, maybe armi because low conversion counpunds.
Prami, caber on hand. I have bromo now for emergeny. I've ran tren 3 times and never had prolactin sides. Even while running peptides that have progest effects. Idk. Maybe my body do set make it. Anyways just se hit to think about and maybe some other juice head has the same thoughts and will cross this post.
Bro, I will not advise you to run 20 weeks of Tren. Beyond 8 weeks you're taxing your health with the stuff. I want to be clear on this point. At your age, I doubt you are on medically prescribed TRT. The kind of long Tren run you are contemplating will be extremely difficult to recover from. If you are blasting and cruising, we need to talk - send me a PM.
dontgivemeadviceI've been looking up all kind of info on this for about 4 hours now. I may have to guineapif it and just take bloods an see. Prob taper in up to make sure nothing crazy happenes. What can happen? Haha
I know it wouldn't even as bad as shooting up heroin and coke for years and I did that. Lived and am still here today.
Running it right now. Cardio is still terrible the eq did nothing for it. Super vascular from the eq and the tren. Nice hard look vascular dry look. Blood pressure is perfect, rbc hemo and hematocrit are in range on the high end tho. Plan on giving blood soon to get it down a bit more. I started with low test (200mg)but found with high eq and tren I had to run the test higher due to slight libido issues. Now I'm at 500mg of test with some provi and everything's good. If you know what your doijg diet and ai wise you should be able to control any bloat and stay dry on 500mg of test. Helps with fullness also, when I get really lean tren starts to make me look flat it just destroys carbs.
All in all idk if I would run it like this again. tren is really strong it seems the boldenone is kinda just cosmetic in this cycle. But the results have been pretty good, nice lean gains no bloat tho. Idk if I'll use tren again it's not worth the stress on the body. Low test moderate to high bold cyp or eq or even npp would be my next idea for a dry cutting cycle. Much less mild then a tren cycle.
dontgivemeadviceForgot to mention. Tren is a crazy chemical. First time I ran it I had to stop. Even at 300 of ace a week. Blood pressure. Shaking anxiety. Didn't sleep for days. Tried the e version. No sides at all besides sleep. Ordered some new Tren ace. Stuff is strong as shit. No anxiety. Sleep perfect. The hgh helped that out. Crazy crazy chemical.
dontgivemeadviceNice bro. What's your dosages on everything f. Trying to figure out my winter cycle and its between super test 900, eq 800/1000 possibly NPP at 2/300 just for joints. I doubt the NPP tho. Or test Cyp 400 tren e 800. Got thinking about it was like what the hell would happen with tren and eq because those are the ones I really want to run. Hence the post. Decisions, decisions. Haha still have a few month. Just starting pct from summer tho. Haha
Right now it's 500mg cyp, 600mg tren e and 750mg bold cyp with 50mg proviron .75mg prami ed, .25 Adex mwf 4ius gh before bed. No sides at all except extreme sweating. Mind you I was sick for 3 months and lost a lot of size, kept lifting hard but couldn't eat so I lost a lot of size so this was supposed to be my 12 week prep cycle to recomp back up to my old size and get me ready for a show in October. That went out the window when I spent the first 6 weeks with bunk or very underdosed tren e. Bout a month in on some quality tren and it's finally working it's magic. But that 6 weeks I lost was crucial for this prep. So I'm just gonna run it out till the end of August then come off for a while and go into bulk mode for a long long time.
Like I said I don't think I would run this again, the tren is very overpowering, the boldenone seems to be just cosmetic, maybe helping a little with some lean gains.
dontgivemeadviceThank you man I appreciate you spending time there write all that down. I was thinking of doing the EQ just because when I do run it my appetite goes up like crazy and it seems like with all the other compounds I'm like forcing myself to eat maybe I should keep the EQ like 600 and run the tren higher.
Something like
Test cyp 400
EQ 600
Tren e 6/800
See I've always like running my test and tren equally. I've never had any prolactin problems at all. I keep bromo on hand, and after more research about bromo. Going to buy some prami or caber to keep on hand. Didn't know the bromo fcked up your igf levels.
Who knows. I still have a few months but just trying to get it all figure out. Sucks because o literally have a few hundred mls of tren ace but that's a summer ester for me. Too many sides to run real high. The tren e I have like zero sides beside sweating like a dog all the time. I'll be running 5/6 iu a day as well with 50 mcg t4 2x day. As well as a d Bol/ T Bol 3 weeks kicker with test prop ten ace 300 a week for first 2 weeks.
Ya tren seems to really kill my appetite, along with most orals if dosed to high. I'm running bold cyp and idk if it's really done much to help my appetite. Been using a lot of ghrp-6 to help. From what I've garthered from myself and others the cyp ester doesn't raise appetite like undeclynate, so maybe runjijg true eq with tren will offset the appetite supression. I definitely love how I'm looking right now and progressing. Personally I would keep the tren at 600, if it's quality that's more then enough. 800 is alot. Besides that it looks good. How long do you plan on running the eq for and how long with the tren? Oh and btw I tried a tren a kicker and it totally killed my appetite, dropped it after 10 days. But were all different.
really iron? wish tren killed my appetite like you lol. im cutting on tren right now and even at 2500-2600 cals/day i feel like im starving myself. and im keeping 300g of carbs/day on workout days and drop it down to about 200-220 on off days. and still ill be craving food all day fml
Ya my appetite is extremely senseitive to hormones man. I find I do best with test and nandrolone. I can eat like a horse on that stack. But throw some dbol in and my appetite goes out the window. Pretty much all orals kill my appetite. I gotta choose my stacks wisely. Some peoplle have no issues on any compounds but I'm not one of them. I wish I was tho. But I'm eating exaclty what I need to be right now so it's all good.
Yeah, that would really screw up your RBC and hematocrit levels. Also your thyroid would take a hit from the tren. Lipid profile is going to be shot. I have no clue about the cardio, that's failry interesting.
dontgivemeadviceIt's just a hypothetical question but anyways
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About 8 years of was knowledge on several forums. About 9 cycles under belt. I've lost count. If you look at some of my stream I fed know a lot about aas and hgh use. I'm jut wondering if anyone's ran something like this and would these two in conjunction. From experience create less tren issues or more overall issues. I've ran tren and eq with test before about 2 winters ago. But low dosage. I went 750 test, 400eq, 350 tren. I didn't notice anything bad at al. Cardio was better. Sleep was better. Eq made me hungry allowing the other counpound to do their work on uptake. I'm just curious will these doses combines create an issue or should I guinea pig it. Some may say it's crazy but I'm sure when some farmer posted on a steroid website he was going to start making juice out of finaplex pellets everyone said dude you can't do that. This guys a fuxkin idiot. Ten years later everyone's addicted to tren. Haha
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dontgivemeadviceHigh dosage tren also ** forgot to put that in
Tren e 600
Equipose 600
Test 250