Winter bulk ideas
5'10.5"
205 lbs ( 4 weeks off cycle now) this is where I'll stay
12-14% body fat
This will be my 7th cycle. I was dumb and started way too young. 22. Hence if you look at my forum posts I wrote out a big thing why people should wait to start aas until 25:26 in my opinion. The past is the past tho. Here is my cycle ideas this time around
400 test cyp
400 tren e
300 tren a
Possibly add 400 of eq. Only to help with eating. Stuff makes me a crazy food fiend.
Or
400 test cyp
600 tren e
600 eq
Or
400 test cyp
800 primobolan
400 EQ
Which do you think would be best as far as lean mass goes. I will be eating a diet of around 5k calories a day. Focusing heavily on lean proteins. Medium carbs and medium fats. Mostly long chain carbs except for post workout dextrose spike. Most fats coming from nuts and fish.
I would like to be sitting at 220 lbs and close to the same body fat as now.
In addition I will be running 4 iu of hgh each day for a year. This cycle will be for 15/20 weeks depending on what I run. Tren will not be ran longer than 10-12 weeks. Kicker will be a 60 mg split of 30 t Bol- 30 mg d bol for first 4 weeks. Liver support will be taken. Liv 52 and possibly tudca and NAC.
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dontgivemeadviceHere's my cutting diet I used last summer.
*** Breakfast *** 7 am
2 Eggs Whites
1 Egg
2 Tbs. Cheese
2 Whole Wheat English muffin
1 Cup milk/ 1 cup water with ON 24 grams protein
14 Gram Fat
60 Gram Protein
67 Gram Carb
635 Calories
*** Post workout *** 10 am
ON 24 grams Whey/ 12 grams Casein protein/ 10 grams Egg Whites/ 1C Milk/ 1C Water
2 Whole Wheat Muffin
1 Tbs Butter
22 Gram Fat
58 Gram Protein
57 Gram Carbs
655 Calories
*** Lunch *** 1 pm
Clean Eatz Meal
8-10 Gram Fat
30-40 Gram Protein
30-40 Gram Carbs
400-475 Calories
*** Protein Shake 3 pm ***
2 Cups Water/ 24 grams Whey Protein
1 Gram Fat
24 Gram Protein
5 Gram Carb
130 Calories
*** Lunch 2*** 4 pm
Home Meal Prep Meal
17-30 Gram Fat
20-25 Gram Protein
18 Gram Carb
475- 600 Calories
*** Dinner *** 8/9 pm
Clean Eatz Meal or Homemade Meal Prep
8-10 Gram Fat
30-40 Gram Protein
30-40 Gram Carbs
400-475 Calories
*** Pre-Bed *** 11 pm
1 C Milk/ 1 C Water
1 scoop ON Casein
2 Tbs Chia Seeds
9 Gram Fat
35 Gram Protein
24 Gram Carbs
320 Calories
Full Days Macros
79-96 Gram Fat
257-282 Gram Protein
231-251 Gram Carbs
3,000-3,300 Calories
dontgivemeadvice*** Breakfast *** 7 am
2 eggs
2 slices Ezekiel bread
1 tablespoon butter
1/2 cup of oats
1 chobani yogurt
1.5 cup milk with ON 24 grams protein
-- 26 gram fat
-- 73 gram protein
-- 78 gram carb
*** Post workout *** 10 am
ON 24 grams whey/ 12 grams casein protein/ 10 grams egg whites/ 1.5 cup milk +12 protein
ON 5 grams creatine
2 tablespoons peanut butter
40 grams dextrose
Ice- 6 cubes
-- 16 gram fat
-- 66 gram protein
-- 69 gram carbs
*** Snack 1 *** 11 am
.25 cup almonds
-- 13 gram fat
-- 6 gram protein
-- 6 gram carbs
*** Lunch *** 1 pm
2 slices Ezekiel bread
5 slices of turkey
1 slice pepper jack cheese
1 tbs mustard
-- 12 gram fat
-- 33 gram protein
-- 43 gram carbs
*** Lunch 2*** 3 pm
Chicken breast / Salmon / Steak
Red skin potato
1 tablespoon butter
Green beans/ Corn/ Asparagus
-- 12-25 gram fat
-- 28-31 gram protein
-- 43 gram carbs
*** Dinner 1*** 7 pm
Chicken breast / Salmon / Steak
Red skin potato/ Brown rice
1 tablespoon butter
-- 15-25 gram fat
-- 31-36 gram protein
-- 28-39 gram carbs
*** Snack *** 9 pm
1 piece of Ezekiel bread
2 tablespoons Peanut Butter
1 tablespoon Jelly
-- 33 gram fat
-- 18 gram protein
-- 41 gram carbs
*** Pre-Bed *** 10/11 pm
1.5 cup Skim Milk
1 scoop ON Casein
-- 1 gram fat
-- 35 gram protein
-- 22 gram carbs
Total
128-154 Grams Fat
290-298 Grams Protein
330-331 Grams Carbs
dontgivemeadviceI may be substituting Redskins for sweet potatoes with healthy fats butter and a little sugar and cinnamon. Those things are deliciousness. Like a mini dessert.
RustyhookerLean mass is bs when bulking. I'd hit up carlos danger or catalyst for a proper deca dbol cycle. Given your stats, it's food problem or gym intensity problem. Deca dbol is classic bulker. Big yams, oats, banana, 400 grams protein etc daily. 6000 calories.
Fat....get on stairs at gym every day for 15 mins. Level 6 and go go go.
Weights...8 sets of pyramids and drops. All angles. Legs...8 sets of 15. Go for max pump. Til failure, which means dropping weight as you go. Only 1 minute max between sets. Hit barely 15...drop 20 and hit another 12.
I was thinking the same thing, something along the lines of sust, deca, adrol.
this ^^^ sust, deca, drol and test e in the back ground at 1 ml, best bulker around.
RustyhookerGlad to see you're enjoying drol. So many ideas, it's good folks add options.
dontgivemeadviceWhat would be a good sub for deca. I hate deca with a passion. It's the only compound that takes me forever to get back to normal levels. I recover on tren way faster than with deca for some reason. Deca shits me down hard as hell. I've never tried npp but maybe that's a possible sub. Although I feel it would shut me down just like deca does.
High primo cycle is my other alternative. Thinking maybe 8/900 my a week with 400 test.
I don't know if there really is a sub for deca. I think EQ would be good compound or 1 test cyp if you wanted to run a shorter cycle. My current bulk right now is just 750 mg sust and pulsing 50 mg 's adrol 2wks on and 2 off for entire cycle. Nice and simple,I feel great, just really focusing on food and training and making constant gains. Doesn't take a huge multiple stack to make some quality gains if you are eating and training right.
dontgivemeadviceMaybe the EQ. I loved it when I ran it before. I would really like to sub the d Bol kicker for anadromous but I literally have hundreds of d Bol I have to use up. High doses of it kill my appetite tho. That's where the EQ comes in handy. I ran it once before at 500 mg a week and I couldn't eat enough.
Alongside things I already have established for cycle are
3.5-4 iu of hgh a day
Letro and armidex on hand.
T4 on hand for hgh
Bromocriptin. On hand.
Ordering some caber.
Hcg starting at week 5 at 1000 iu a week split. 5000 iu for the 10 day protocol before pct.
Proviron 50 mg a day
Now I just need to get my big things figured out
So you saying I should go with something like
600 test
600eq
Well, I ran EQ at 600 mg and wasn't super impressed with it. I'm not going to give up on it though. I'm going to give it one more go probably at 750mg. If I need to go higher than that, EQ is no longer going to be in my arsenal. I will be using some bold cyp (600 mg wk) in my next cycle though so maybe I'll like that better than the EQ. If 600 mg works for you that is great. I just don't want run it to high because I think it can start causing problems for a guy my age with increased rbc and everything that goes along with that. 600 mg test seems to be a good dose with that stack.
dontgivemeadviceWell I want to keep in lean as possible meaning not just eating everything in sight. I want to eat fairly clean. No or minimal junk food. I do meal prep and usually do about 21 meals for the week. I also go to a place that does meal prep and usually get another 14 meals. My diet cups use a little work I admit and would love some help doing that. I could post it up on here if anyone would like to critique it. My gym intensity is on point in my opinion. I either do a 4 day split with one day full hitt cardio 6 days a week . Or I do a 3 way split and hit gym 7 days a week. One day being hitt cardio. I'm a very busy person so I am on the move all day. Usually I burn between 3000/4000 calories a day. I'm a fairly large dude sitting at 210 most the time. I have an plan on doing more comp in Physique class. I just need a little more thickness added to really be at top level. My comp weight is 180. I would like to take that to 190-195 with about 6/8%. The fat content I will worry about in the summer/ spring tho. I just want to focus on mass right now. I will post my diet below.
So your saying 7 sets each exercise? Right now I do between 3/5 sets. Max weight at 8 rep. 1 at set is warm up. Weight increase from there on until I get to max set rep of 8.
I've been doing the same 2 routines off and on for about 4 years now so I am getting pretty stale in these areas.
RustyhookerFor me the extra volume puts on the mass. If I lift for strength, I can throw up some nice pounds but mass stays the same. Full pumps and sore muscles works nicely. Sometimes on cycle it's easy to lose focus as weights get light so I'll chase heavy for 8 reps. Run the rack and drops work great. Pyramids. If I hit a flat spot I'll shock for a week with 10 x 10.
Everyone responds different so open mind, trial and error.
dontgivemeadviceSounds good. I'm trying to find my workout routines on my phone now. I have them all typed up. Could def use some tips on it tho. It's getting very stale and I'm really staying the same. I am also in pct tho so that's not too bad of a thing. I could def use a little more intensity tho.
Lots of routines posted by catalyst and myself in the training section. All good for hypertrophy.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^ this
dontgivemeadviceThank you. I'll go check them out. I found mine that I made but their on a .odt format and I can only open word docs on here.
dontgivemeadviceMy fourth idea was a simple one. Just run test cyp at 1000 mg a week for 15 weeks.