+ 1 Help with First cycle any tips??
Hey everyone! I have been trainning steady for 6.5yrs and feel i am ready for my first cycle. The one thing is that trying to find that perfect cycle is non exhistent in the spectrum of everyone is different.
- age 26
- 198lbs
- 15%Bf ( currently trying to get to 12%)
- im a mesomorph
I have a few questions
- Caloric surplus while on cycle , same as the regular 500 over bmr?
- my macros would be ( 40% C,30%P,30%F) would the macros change on cycle??
- Any P.C.T Dieting tips to help keep mass??
- Trainning while on P.C.T
Overall context of the first broken down question
- keep gains during and after P.C.T
- any dieting tips to max potential gains as diet is really important and considering im a little carb sensative.
Heres the planned cycle
( injections combined TC + TEQ / mon - thurs )
Weeks 1 - 4 - Dianabol 30mg
Weeks 1- 12 - 500mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-12 - 600mgs Test EQ
Weeks 8 - 12 - 20mg dianabol
2 weeks after last injection P.C.T
- nolvadex
- femara or clomid ( hmmm )
- finastride or ostarine
Also on a side note.. my dad use to do steroids back in norway in his younger days , wont say what he used but he got gyno) now having said that. Im not doing that have on hand shit because its useually to late if shmptoms show up IMO. would starting arimidex from the get go keep E at bay? Any tips?
Also if its not to much trouble.
- what to expect on first cycle
And any other tips one might add:)
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Great first cycle would be 500 mgs test. Virgin receptors so safe the others for later days. Your first cycle you will gain the most. Take a anti e if nips flare
I agree with the advice below. Definitely drop the dbol and eq for now. The only point I'd pick up on is you mentioned femara or clomid during PCT. Femara is letro if I'm not mistaken so don't take that because it will crash your estrogen. Take the clomid alright. I would run a low dose of AI during pct to prevent estrogen rebound if you're running adex. Get some aromasin and take that during pct at probably 12.5 ed for weeks one and two and 6.25 ed weeks three and four. I haven't used finastride during pct so I can't really comment about it.
Okay. Will note it. And also could letro be run eWK? During cycle i want no chance of gyno. But this all really helps!!
You could run letro as an AI during cycle but it's very strong so I would start with adex and only switch to letro if your bloods show that the adex isn't sufficient. Aro might be a better choice all around because you can avoid the estrogen rebound during pct. It's a stronger AI than adex but not as strong as letro so it might suit you better.
Thanks everybody your All a big help!!
If your bodyfat is lower,10-12%, I would bump the cals to a 1000 over. If closer to 15% I would stick around 5-750 cals over. You can get away with more calories with lower bodyfat because your nutrient partitioning will be better and those extra cals will translate into more lean body mass. With higher bodyfat those extra cals have more potential to be deposited as fat instead. As always though, monitor BF with a caliper and adjust cals accordingly.
The other guys are right on the coumpound issues. Only test is just fine for your first cycle.
On another note, I really don't think 500 cals over bmr is enough. Shoot for somewhere close to 4000 should suffice. You gotta eat to grow.
Thanks guys. Test enanthate 600mg weekly? Or the normal 500mg. i understand about doing single compounds in terms of reaction. And yep my sis is a doc shell do my bloods and ill adjust accordingly.
500mg will certainly suffice for your first cycle.
Way too much gear. 3 compounds is 2 too many for your first cycle.
Ur adding way too many compounds for ur first run not a good idea.
How about u run test only u don't need to run dbol or eq. U need to start basic so u can understand how ur body reacts with test only and how e2 levels work also get bloods pre/Intra/post cycle this will give U great understanding on ur body and gauging side effects. If u want to bulk just eat more if u want to cut just reduce carbs. Again my advice is no dbol or eq test only and u will see great results with ur diet in check