Help for a beginner.
I am 25 years old, I weigh 180bs am 5"7. 10% bf at most.. Working out has always been a huge part of my life since i was 15years old, dad was a body builder, uncle was Mr. Arizona back in the day. Anyways i have ran one cycle in the past. 500 Test E for 10 weeks, Pct with Nolva and Clomid.
Got decent results first cycle, muscles became alot buffer and harder more cut. didnt gain much more then 10lbs probably could of implemented a better eating rotunine, protien always in the mid 200grams range, calories could of been increaed and shot for about 5,000. alot of strength gained, was maxing out at 315lbs bench, 405lbs sqauts, lost some strength after cycle but still have a great amount for my size. Kept most wegight. I am a decently muscular guy.
I have very good genes, build muscle extremely fast from when i started working out, dont gain fat much even when i eat unhealthy. No Gyno what so ever my first cycle, some bacne but bearable,
I am Looking to do another cycle,
I work out 6 days a weeek and cardio one. For 1-2 hours each time, Lifting is a huge part of my life and obsession
this time i want to increase the Test, suggestions? 600-750?
i want to try a stack Deca. 300-400?
Armidex for possible side effects?
Same PCT Nolva and Clomid? however i thought i remembered reading or hearing No Nolva with Deca?
Health is a concern always, Keeping Gains also a concern.
I didnt have any problem what so every with Gyno the first cycle. Not to say it cant happen, i Dont think that adding that is increasing it to alot bigger about.. So im not worried about it happening necessarily but any input and all advice will be appreiciated
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bigmurphI would like you to read a post that was just put up a couple of days ago. It was by a member named irongame and it was a great read and I think it will be a very interesting read for you. I will get the link
Ok so even after reading this i believe with your age and strong genetics you should get into the diet aspect of the game and I believe that you will start to get great gains from just that.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/for-the-average-...
Its a great read about simplicity in and of a cycle check it out.
Great direction to send him in. I just read it myself and it's phenomenal. I share the same opinions though so maybe I'm biased lol
I will check it out. appreciate it!. and yeah diet could be better, but i am pretty good about making sure i get 250-300grams of protien a day along with 3500+ calories, probably isnt the best of the best however, Good food can be expensive when u already eat alot. haha but yeah defianlty something to look into. I just feel over the last couple years i try to switch up my routine every once in awhile i do feel with strength and weight gain i have hit a plateau more of the reason why i want to run another cycle, but health being a big concern.
Have you ever tried Jim Wendler's 5/3/1? I did the boring but big last fall without any gear and busted a plateau I was at for a couple months. Not trying to Tak u out of anything, it seems like you're going in the right direction, just something that helped me out.
i have not? insight me. haha defiantly up to check things out. but i think ive made my mind up on cycling again.. not saying right at this moment but in do time. and i would like to have the right gear and proper pct to do it. Suggestions and ideas still needed! in the meantime im down for trying these other things
Just google "5/3/1 workout" and "boring but big". That should help you over the next couple months while you're getting your cycle together. They're both t-nation articles.
bigmurphI actually read it on tnation doesn't sound like something that would work but it worked for you?
I will give it a try in the future
Yea, first I was like that's not enough weight to start and fuck "leaving some in the tank", this isn't gonna work, but my buddy told me it worked for him so I said fuck it and put my ego aside and 3 months later all my maxes were up by a good clip and I was up like 6 lbs. I've since recommended it to a couple friends and they've all loved it. I'm prolly gonna do it every fall. Starting again when I get back from vacation in a week. It may not be for everyone but I'd definitely recommend giving it a shot. If ur gonna do it id recommend boring but big, cuz it's the only way you're gonna be able to kill urself after ur main lift. And don't stop on the last set of ur main lift at the prescribed reps like he says, go til u can't. And superset the assistance work where u can. At least that's what I do when I do it.
I have mixed feelings about t-nation. I think some of their articles are really good, but then some sound rediculous and then they throw in an article here and there that's clearly an ad for their supplement company... That pisses me off.
bigmurphIf he answered me back i was going to send him to your post next I've read it 3x and I love it.
Lol thanks buddy I appreciate it. Glad to hear it I hope it helps some fellas out.
RustyhookerPost up your diet. Describe what your cardio is...bpm?
Cycle of a stack is too much imo. You're lean so it's a calorie issue.
Advice on cycle? Pct?
There are a couple stickies in this forum that should help you peice everything together and then when you think you have it down you can propose it in the cycle in the cycle section and the vets/experts will help you iron it out
okay well i dont eat the best but not bad at all, like i said barely gain fat anyways
its the same basically monday-friday because of work
25grams whey in morning with 2 raw eggs,
protien bar 25 grams
Can of tuna 2oz with granola
protien bar 20 grams.
Thats what i eat before and while at work,
Usually try to eat carbs when home could be 12oz box of maranoi or a big amount of pasta with protien maybe half pound of chicken
after workout always 1lb of chicken with 1lb of beans or rice.
Ice Cream and junk to add on Calories
Protien shake 32grams before bed
BCAAs, Tumeric, Multi Vitamin
Always try to get atleast 250-300grams of protien
Could do Better on drinking more water i know all that protien cant be the best for me without enough water
Average 3500+ calories a day, snack on beef jerky, and junk food unhealthy calories though
Cardio usually consists of running a mile before workout and after.
Cardio day maybe 20 minutes on stair master 2 miles on treadmill and 3-4 on bike or olyptical All together
Dont know BPM could check that later today..
I am failry healthy, But i am a smoker.
No drugs or alcohol
Can be very disciplined.
cut that smoking out and youll put on a few more pounds. nicotine is a stimulant. when i started i was a smoker i quit at 175 pounds and jumped up to 183 in a couple of months. i felt like my appetite increased alot as well without the ciggs. i dont want to steer you wrong but it wouldnt hurt to add in some cheat meals tacos burgers here and there to help out with calorie comsumption. im not saying go balls out dirty but either way you look at it if youre bulking you will add fat
RustyhookerTruth. Hard to believe what a lil bad habit can do. Long term hardening arteries etc. I like a good cigar here and there but glad I kicked cigs long ago
Same. I still moke a cigar about once a month though too. You should see my humidor. lol. Fits 250.
RustyhookerLove a good cigar!! Time for me to order, only 1 left. :(
I've been addicted to Tatuaje, illusione and my father le Bijoue recently. If u haven't had any of them give em a shot! You won't regret it.
RustyhookerIllusions is tasty! Haven't tried the others yet. I like the edge by Patel. The anniversary Padron and edge anniversary was supreme but definitely for a special event.
I went through a rocky phase a couple years ago. Lotta sun growns & edges lol. And yea man pardon anniversaries are phenomenal but definitely special occasions. If you like those you'd love Tatuaje and my father.
yeah good point the smoking is just stupid and needs to be rid of.. And i know it i hear from everyone that they gain weight off. I try not to let them affect my eating. i Try to wait til after i eat and ect when i know im going too but NOT gonna lie i do smoke before meals often... But until i do that, i do defianlty have cheat meals.. like i said thats the basis of my meals during work week. Weekend night i always eat out, pizza burgers ect. and id say atleast a few nights a month during the week im being lazy and will just go get 2 bacanotors or some shit from Wendys, i was doing the dirty bulk for a little while, dont gain fat much. but just felt unhealthy. But i still enjoy some garbage food here and there haha..
right on brother. def try to cut the ciggs out. i know what i like to do if im short on calories is ill get the large container of vanilla greek yogurt ite 4 servings ill eat that with a scoop of protein to make up the cals right before bed. but thats only if i missed a meal or something it helps for me
I have some buddies that switched to the vaping and then weaned down from that. Then at least ur not getting all the other chemicals they add to cigarettes
thats exactly how i quit it wasnt called vaping then lmao it wss just the basic e cigarette. i took steps from high medium low none. now they got it measured in mg and more vapor concoctions.... i wish i had all the options they have now when i first quit it would have been much easier. im sure it was there but when i quit e cigs werent very popular like they are now
yeah defiantly considering that. have friends who quit just vape now. ive been smoking for 10 years now its catching up
RustyhookerOr the Viking shake . It's gotten me out of flat spots before.
what does that consist of? im having a hard time keeping on weight as we speak with the injury id like to give it a whirl
AnonYou can find that info right here
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/viking-tribute
hmmm i could roll with that and it would be cheaper than premade carb and weight gainer powders for sticky spots. i shall try this tonight
thanks diaz
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^ it has helped me many times. Quick, easy and big calories
AnonYea Rusty I have tried it too and it's not bad at all and it seems to stick with me for a bit longer than regular protein shakes... I like to graze every few hours
right i can get more disciplined if needed. If i was on a cycle i defiantly would be. Also like to slam a big container of ice cream before bed if im still any what hungry! But still i need advice and suggestions on how to go about this next cycle. Not saying im starting off the bat. but i wanna do my research before
well i typically stay away from the cycle advice these days. im not a huge fan of deca ao right off the rip im going to say stay away from that compound but a few of the vets will see this and get you right rustyhooker is a warehouse of knowledge any advice he may give you will be in your be interest and legit. goodluck bro welcome aboard