Halo/Test C cycle
What's up guys, Im about 5'9 200 lbs looking to run my first AAS cycle. I've done a H-drol cycle before and was happy with it. But now i'm moving on to bigger and better things. I have an extremely clean and lean diet and am looking to build lean muscle but maybe cut a bit. Looking to kick start with the Halodrol. Just need some opinions on this cycle, I have done my research and have gotten opinions I just think its great to get second or third opinions. But anyways. Here it is:
Cycle:
1-6 halodrol 75/75/75/75/75/75
1-6 organ shield or tudca
1-12 test 350mg a week (125mg Monday 125mg Thursday)
1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
10-14 hcg 1000iu a week (500iu Monday 500iu Thursday)
Pct:
15-18 torem 90/60/60/30 or clomid 50/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed or blue up
15-18 post cycle, forged post cycle, or recycle
15-18 erase 75mg ed or transdermal formestane 100mg ed
15-18 d-aspartic acid 3g ed
Just take a look and tell me what you think. Thanks guys, I do appreciate it.
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Yeah i'm gonna start it next week. No halo I re-did everything after doing more research. Can one of you tell me if that cycle looks good to start down below?
75mg/d halo? DAMN! that would have been just a little over kill! glad you posted up here before you hurt yourself.
he's referring to the pro hormone halodrol(h-drol) not halotestin. That would be overkill. lol
Cycle:
1-12 test e 500mg a week (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
1-15 aromasin 12.5mg ed
1-15 hcg 500iu a week (250iu Monday 250iu Thursday) (Stop 3 days before pct)
Pct:
15-18 nolva 40/40/20/20
15-18 torem 120/60/60/60
15-18 aromasin 12.5 eod
Look good to you guys? Please let me know. Will be starting this next week or the week after.
Darron614I think that you should just run Test 400-500 mg per week. Aromasin should be every day in my opinion. This is because it has a shorter half life and EOD will not maintain stable levels.
I read a few others and did a little more research, I do agree with you as well on the Aromasin and will definitely use ed instead. Thank you.
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I read everything in the top forum about the cycles. Someone who apparently knows what hes doing wrote this up for me, and I just wanted to get a second opinion. Now I'm just trying to get advice on what I should do. Like wagner said, to drop the hcg and halo, just use the test c compound (one compound at a time) and bump up to 400mg/week. That I'll take into consideration. Can I ask you what you think I should do viewi? How I should run it? Maybe Test C at 400mg/week 1-14 with Aromasin at 12.5 eod? Keep it simple?
@mwagner630: Should I run the cycle for longer than 12 weeks then? Maybe 14?
@Vewi: Just looking for suggestions and opinions that's all. I want to everything correctly and to a T as harmless as possible. I took this information from others explaining to me what a first cycle should look like, so I'm getting second opinions. If you say I should drop the halo I will. I didn't think that was necessary anyways. Still doing my research but I'd like to start my cycle soon.
Vewio i understand that.. but there is plenty of info her about first cycles, and what should be ran and PCT..And if you were reading all of it you would have come up with something better just my two cents.
I'm currently 25. I also do agree with you. I just thought maybe running halo to kick start it while the test builds up. But I hear you on that one also. What do you think about my pct? and on cycle supps? Such as running the aromasin at 12.5 eod or maybe e3d? Also, only reason I thought hcg should be used is because it is a long ester and those 5 weeks include the 2 before my pct that i'm on nothin and waiting for the long estered compound to clear. If there's anything else you believe I should grab on hand please let me know. I appreciate the reply, thank you.
Vewi"Im about 5'9 200 lbs looking to run my first AAS cycle."
And this is what you cam up with..................
SMH
lol. yeah, what he said.. keep it simple dude
how old are you??
its a short first cycle. i dont think the hcg is needed. also since its your first true aas run, drop the halo too, only run one compound at a time when you start. just run straight test. id bump that test a little to 400mg a week. running one thing at a time gives you the ability to learn how your body reacts to it, as you progress, try adding a new compound, but never more than one at a time. this way you are aware of what the problem may be if something is off, because of the experience youve developed with the compound(s) youve ran. keep it as simple as possible when you start. the more complicated the more likely things can go wrong especially for a new ass user
AnonIf he has already ran h-drol I dnt see why he couldn't use it along with some test. A basic 500 mg a week for 12 weeks would be plenty since its his first cycle but I dnt think the halo will hurt
h-drol worked well for me in the past. but i've been getting a little bit of heat about that and considering he said hcg isn't necessary, i did some more research and talked to a few others and said to definitely use hcg while on cycle. I'm still contemplating on using halo as a kick start as i've came with a new schedual and pct.
Looks like this:
Cycle:
1-12 test e 600mg a week (300mg Monday 300mg Thursday)
1-12 masteron e 500mg a week (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
1-15 hcg 500iu a week (250iu Monday 250iu Thursday) (Stop 3 days before pct)
Pct:
15-18 Torem 120/60/60/60
15-18 Nolva 40/20/20/20
(also have erase if needed for pct along with unleashed)
I dosed the test up a little higher because 500mg's of test isn't really 500mg's of test, it's only 360 mg's and for a first cycle a few vets have said they were golden having about 400mg's in there system which is about 600mg's. I threw the masteron e in because it will compliment the test and maximize the efficiency and also will help control the estrogen a lil bit. With that being said not sure if ill kick start with halo or not. Thinking I might not need to.
Keep your first cycle simple. There is a reason why your first cycle should be a simple one of test e/c only. You need to know how your body is going to respond to the test. If complications arise during your cycle, how are you going to know what is causing the problem. Is it the test, the mast, the HCG. Have a couple of different AI's on hand also. Maybe the Aromasin makes you feel like crap and lethargic, switch over to Adex and you may be fine or vice versa. How much AI is your body going to need with that amount of test. Now is the time to find out. You will be learning proper pinning techniques and site rotation. That is going to be alot easier if you are not pinning alot of oil.
I know it is tempting with all of these different compounds out there to try and get a taste of as many of them as you can for your first cycle, but it is unecessary. The gains from a simple test e cycle will far surpass anything you achieved with your halo cycles. Adding additional compounds right away is not going to turn you into a professional bodybuilder overnight. Take it slow. There is a lot to learn so do it the right way and the safe way.
I agree with you 100%, no doubt about that. If you don't mind telling me, how does this look then?
Cycle:
1-12 test e 500mg a week (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
1-14 aromasin 12.5mg ed
1-15 hcg 500iu a week (250iu Monday 250iu Thursday) (Stop 3 days before pct)
Now I saw 2 diff pct's I thought might help. One person told me to blast with hcg first 2 weeks of pct, then the rest with torem. Not sure how I feel about that considering that much hct while on pct can desensitize leydig cells. However I'm open to it because they told me their bloodwork was completely fine and worked out great and they swear by it. Then another pct using tamox and torem. If you could or anyone could tell me which would benefit me more and be more effective and safer.
Pct 1:
15-17 hcg 2500iu a week (1250iu Monday 1250iu Thursday)
15-18 torem 120/60/60/60
Pct 2: (lower dose of hcg)
15-17 hcg 1500iu a week (750iu Monday 750iu Thursday)
15-18 torem 120mg/60/60/60
18 hcg 500iu once
Pct 3:
15-18 Torem 120/60/60/60
15-18 Nolva 40/20/20/20
For a test only cycle for 12 weeks, I don't think you should need HCG. If you do decide to use it don't use in PCT. I am going to use at the end of my current cycle. I am going to do a blast of it at 500iu 10days before my PCT and then go into my PCT with aromasin/nolva/clomid.
Why wouldn't you use aromasin on cycle?
Use either aromasin or arimidex on cycle. I prefer arimidex on cycle and then switch over to aromasin for PCT since it is a suicidal inhibitor and I don't have to worry about any estrogen rebound when I am done with it.
See now, for my pct i'm going to most likely use torem 120/60/60/60 and nolva 40/20/20/20. But im going to use aromasin for on cycle. should i use adex for pct then? I need to know what additives to use on pct other than nolva and torem, some say use an AI on pct and during cycle some say no.
If you are going to use an AI for PCT you will need to use aromasin. You can't use adex PCT because you will get estro rebound when you stop using it whereas aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor so you don't have to worry about rebound when you stop it. If you decide to use an AI during PCT drop your Nolva to 20/20/10/10 with 12.5mg aromasin EOD or 6.25 daily. See what works better for you. If you are not going to use an AI during PCT, keep your Nolva at 40/40/20/20. I have ran several PCT without an AI. This will be my first where I will try it with an AI and I will also be using proviron.
Alright, that's what I'm going to do then. Ill just use ai on cycle and run nolva at 40/40/20/20. Do you think it's better to use an AI during cycle and for pct? Or no? What do you think about stuff like eras and d-aspartic acid during pct as well?
Erase is a suicidal inhibitor, so do not take it and another AI at the same time during PCT or you may crash your estro. Can't hurt to take DAA. I take it during my PCT.
ai i should be ran through cycle and pct, most often estrogen issues arise in pct because of rebound issues.
ill be using aromasin 12.5/ed during cycle, should i continue all 4 weeks of pct as well then?
yes, an adjust the dose as needed , either up or down. as you body returns to normal youll need less