posted Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:17
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gyno issues. help please
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Okay so my last cycle I developed gyno issues in one nipple. Nothing horrible but it has a small lump and it's always been sore. Starting a new cycle and it's appearing to come back.
Currently:
500mg Test-E/wk
50mg Tren-A/EOD
50mg Dbol/day
12.5mg Aromasin/ED
The aromasin seems to keep it at bay for the most part but I still can tell my nipples a little enlarged and sore. I've heard of people using letro to reverse gyno (2.5mg daily) but I've also heard that it's extremely bad to dose that high. Also read that using tamoxifen and Raloxifene together can also help reduce gyno. I know they are SERMS. But can they be taken on cycle? Has anyone had any luck with this. I'll take suggestions.
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Rustyhooker5-10? Stats, goals, priors? Stop cycle. Lack of skill has you right where you are.
Age: 29Height: 70Weight: 185BF: no bf either but on tren and dbol?
So you have pre existing gyno and you include Dbol? Bad decision.
Over the top cycle for a guy that could still be making gains without gear or at worst using simple test cycles.
Dbol can and will definitely cause gyno. Makwa is correct. On an unrelated note, is karma just reserved for fanboys who treat this place like facebook or do people actually get it for real contributions? From what my buddy said, he won't even post pictures or offer advice anymore because no one really upvotes anyone unless they are kissing their ass.
Get bloods done as soon as possible. However if you are going to use letro, you should start off with a low dose because it's extremely strong. Obviously stop the aromasin. A dose of .25 to .50 my can shut almost all of your estrogen down and u don't want it THAT low. Start slow and see how you respond and how you feel. If you start to lose sex drive and your joints get stiff, u may be crashing your estrogen. So listen to your body and adjust accordingly. Bloods will help but getting before and afters are unrealistic though ideal. Tren could be the problem, but I doubt it based on your description. .. unless u are lactating. I would have some caber or prami on hand anytime you run tren anyways. I wouldn't use the serms... they aren't gonna reverse anything. They could slow it down but broscience says not to run them with tren anyways as it can cause it to get worse. I just went through the same thing with gyno. First time ever. Had a bunk batch or aromasin.
RustyhookerTren doesn't form estrogen. Yet no mention of what tren does form.
No mention of what happens when tren takes the recrptors. What happens to excess test?
Not a good cycle yet no mention of STOPPING ?
No goals, stats, priors.
Gyno + dbol = not good
You need to get bloods pulled only way to tell for sure what's going on.
When I go to get my bloods done. Do I need to take anything prior? Like should I take my test or aromasin?
I'm not sure about that maybe some others will chime in but for me I change nothing and just show up for the test. Is the aromasin the only ai you have and is it research or pharm grade?
Getting that done tomorrow. Stopping the tren today. Going to see if anything improves.
Complete stats ?
And as you're in tren, you need to be very careful. 19-nors are progestin agonists, meaning they can be another cause for gyno, and even male lactation.
Nolvadex should NOT be used with tren, as nolvadex (tamoxifen) makes gyno worse when used concurrently with tren.
Full out your stats, and I really don't see why you're on tren. It's notorious for its side effects
Complete stats are
5'10"
176 lbs
About 12% BMI (trying to lower it)
Anything else?
BMI or BF%?
All said and done, only bloods can tell what's causing it. make sure you get a full hormone panel that includes your progestin count.
Still can't abide you using tren.
You don't have caber or prami.
Get bloods and let us know what's going on, lots of guys on here that can help you.
opticxI wouldnt run tren man, test is really best. It will make you grow like a week and you dont have to worry about prolactin
Agreed. Most likely the tren is what is causing your issues bro. Id drop it completely. If your gonna run a tren cycle you for sure need a solid anti prolactin which you don't have here. Caber or Bromo preferably. Drop it and keep up your AI you have in place. The soreness and the nipple puff will dissipate considerably.