posted Fri, 03/11/2016 - 13:32
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Gettin ready to start cycle #2
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Hey guys, brand new to the forum. I'm just gettin ready to start my second ever cycle. Last year I ran a 12 week cycle of test e and mast p. I wasn't planning on running my first so long but felt so great on it I didn't wanna get off lol. However, by 12 weeks I was definitely ready for a break. I made a few mistakes and didn't know a sole to ask for help so I thought this time around I better join a forum to insure I do things right.
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Whats your goal? Lean mass?
Do you know what your BF% is?
Get pre cycle bloodwork. Second cycle can be simple, or just long estered Test again for 12 weeks at standard dose. Provi 25mg ed to unbind week 3-12. Bloods week 5-6. AI of choice on hand for estro issues. Dont crash estro with provi/mast combo. In fact, leave masteron out foe this cycle.
Post diet and calculate BMR with activity using Harris Benedict Equation.
3500-4000 cal/d
300/250-300/120-150 (p/c/f) daily macros
Moderate cardio 2x/wk (2.5 miles)
Goal is lean mass. Not sure my bf but guessing right around 12-14. Trying to get a little leaner before I start my next cycle.
So are ya saying wait til 3rd week to start proviron? My diet is oat meal eggs breakfast, 2nd meal is avacodo usually. Lunch is mainly salmon and asparagus with half baked potato. 4th meal protein shake. Dinner chicken and some veggies usually. Not same everyday but close. My calories have been real low lately though tryin to lean out (1500-1800 average). i'll up them when I'm on the test. I'll have to do some research on the bmr stuff, don't really know what that is. I'll def. take your advice on the blood work too. Thanks for your help
Yes wait til week 3 or 4. With calories that low it shouldnt take you long to lean out. But, then you will have to consider where you are at before you start, so dont lose too much weight. When you research Harris Benedict Equation you will see what i am talking about when you put your BMR into perspective, especially keeping in mind your TDEE, macros, and daily caloric intake in combination with using AAS because you will need more food to achieve maximum results.
Post up a cycle log and people will help you dial it in did you run pct on your first one what are you thinking about for the second one
X2 on PCT
bigmurphSmart move brother what is your second cycle and what mistakes did you make on the first
X2 on getting op to respond and reflect on mistakes helps teach and learn...
PCT was something I was very confused with. So many contradicting things on the web on what to do and not so I probably screwed up and did none. I ran my test higher then I meant to the last 4 weeks, just added the mgs wrong and went way too high. I ran no AI the entire time and had no gyno issues. never shut down after cycle but was def. suppressed a little. Maybe stuff was a little watered down?
Anyways next cycle I was thinking pretty much the same with the test and mast. Not sure if I should run the test e or test p or a test blend. I also ordered some censored proviron from a source that does not have the best rating on here so probably wasted my money there, I guess we'll see shortly huh? mainly wanna put on lean mass not really lookin to bulk a whole lot.
AnonDo not mention lab names or sources in forums I know you're new but maybe read over the rules one more time
Edit provi source name...please...thx
Sorry about that. I'm tryin to figure out how to edit that right now
A mod will have to since i replied to it...my bad bro...i will ask a mod to do it...sorry.
Cool, thank you
Next cycle I wanna run:
Week 1-8 50 mg Proviron ed and 500 ml Test
week 8-12 500 ml Test and 500 ml masteron
PCT= not sure?
I really don't wanna stay on the mast the whole time that is why I added the proviron this time. Any thoughts on if that is a good idea or not?
Lets refurbish your plan:
-Test E or C 500mg/wk (wk ?-?)
-Provi 25mg ed (wk ?-?)
*Fill in the question marks with numbers for the appropriate time frames that the drugs will be administered.
PCT drugs are Clomid and Nolva. But you need to post a PCT plan with standard doses, frequencies and length of time for us to see.
Hold the masteron for this cycle.
Test E= 12 weeks pinning 300mg every 4days
Proviron= 25mg Ed 8 weeks starting at 3 weeks
Pct= week 14 start nolva but not sure dosage or time frame. I see basic pct dosage on the internet but just really confused on time? Should I worry about hcg on this one?
Hcg is optional. It will help for smoother recovery, but it isnt a requirement unless you use a 19-nor.
14-18 days after last pin start your PCT:
-Nolva: 40/40/20/20 (take at night)
-Clomid: 100/100/50/50 (divided doses in morning and evening.
10-4 thanks for all the help, I'm sure some of these basic questions can be annoying so I really appreciate ya taking your time to answer. Do you think I should add var or anything else to this one to help me get a grainier appearance?
No. You are fine with the Test/Provi for now. You can titrate your macros, and get the appearance you are looking for with the test and provi...