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Hey...
I wont use Bro ..because im new here...
To summarize - 36yrs old 6'5" 270ish pounds. Ive dealt with several catastrophic injuries in the past ... blown rotator cuffs, torn acl, broken neck, bad ankles, etc. No gall bladder either
Ive never been right physically since the broken neck recovery. I'm mentally strong and even gifted in that department.
My diet is clean and generally limit my caloric intake to less than 1800/day.
Before my broken neck I was a brick shit house ... maybe 250pounds.
Anyway ...I picked up 200IU of HGH and am looking for advice on certain roids ..not necessarily to get gigantic - but to put me back where I was before my injury... or close to it.
The fire that was once there deep down is missing ya know. I wouldn't call it the motivation because its there ...but its something else.
I don't want acne or to go bald .. and with my employment I get 8-9-10 weeks sometimes at home all in a row so I have the time.
After reading about the subject for the past 6 months I came up with the following:
8 weeks
Anavar 40 or 50mg/day
HGH 2-4IU/day
Some sort of test? /week
clomid?
I'm piecing it together while the HGH sits in my fridge.
Any advice would be great. Im not against needles obviously ...just dont want acne or a mean temper because I'm already intimidating enough at work.
I think my goal is reasonable and certainly attainable and am accustomed to physical pain. Im hoping its entirely possible to get back to where i was within a year or so.
Lastly, short of taking andro back in the day .. no supplements have ever been used. I just remember after a month or so of andro there was an extra bit of motivation to push harder.
I have no issues with women or g/fs .. this is for me and my personal well-being.
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Here is the best piece of advice for a 1st timer. Get blood work done BEFORE you start. This way you will know if there is anything wrong with you and you will have a reference that you can use to know if your PCT has been successful.
When you broke your neck you could have suffered head trauma. Head trauma can affect your testosterone levels. You might have low testosterone levels. Bloodwork will tell you this. 1800 cal a day is way too little for you based on your size. Remember, if you have low testosterone, it will be nearly impossible to lose weight. Your androgen receptors need to be stimulated.
Start with testosterone only. Learn to manage that compound in your body as it will be your foundation. if you use more than one compound you will never know what's doing what and what is causing which problems.
I do not know where you are getting your HGH, but if it is pharmaceutical grade 4 IU is all you really need for your purposes and will help with some of your injuries.
You are going to want hCG to run with your cycle from the very 1st week to the very end.
PCT should be Clomid and Nolvadex ONLY.
well ..after breaking my neck the pain management doctors got me all addicted to methadone, actiq suckers, morphine sulfite er..etc . I kicked all that thank God .. without any help .. but that really tested my mental strength. To be honest ..i haven't been right physically since then.
I work 12-14 hours 7 days a week when offshore for sometimes 8 weeks ...and im totally drained for at least a week when returning home. While working there isn't much to do besides work, weights, (things i wont mention heh) and sleep.
Im going to do the cycle offered here on this thread after getting my body accustomed to the HGH. My goal isn't to be gigantic - I just want balance again.
Ill certainly do hcg as well.
Lastly, I can certainly eat much much more. Not having a gall bladder really limits foods I can eat and pretty much do fresh fish, avocados, and both types of protein shakes.
Something that you may have not known, and your doctor may not have. Opiates and their derivatives are known to severely diminish testosterone by disrupting your hpta. Read this.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14622741
You may not even need to do a cycle. Get blood work done. If you're testosterone is low and you are a candidate for TRT all you may need to do is get into the high range of normal in terms of testosterone. This alone may get you the goals you seek.
Two things. As grygst72 is suggesting I would think about running a basic 12 week Test only cycle. If that would be your first - you will be THRILLED with the results. HGH for bodybuilding and injury support is typically run a little higher than for anti-aging applications. I gradually worked up to 6 IU a day of GH and I am THRILLED. 4 IU may do it for you though. Like Tennessee says, get to know GH, we all respond a little different to it. All the info for the 12 week Test cycle including PCT chemicals and your AI can be found through the search function on the site - I would get you some links but I am running out of the house right now. If you can't find anything, FR me and I will get you to the right pages on the site to do some reading.
thank you. so test e it is ..500/day split twice and im still trying to figure out the PCT. Ive been reading and reading ...seems some recommend clomid ..some gonadatropin ..etc. I dont want to be stuck at the end.. body all freaking out and whatnot scrambling for the right stuff.
Im certain the test will be good for me as my family has a history of low test ... and a doctor recently told my father that its because of our height (im the shortest of my family @ 6'5). I have no idea if its true or not ...but whatever.
The test flu makes me a bit nervous .. but i suppose i wont know until it happens.
Test Flu. No worries on that - you may not even experience it, not everyone does. It's not an illness per se - for some people when they first jack their Testosterone - the body fights it - it's not a "foreign substance" even - just an elevated hormone level. You may even get a low grade fever. Maybe. It will pass in just a few days . . .
I think Test Flu is just the flavor of the day. Back in the day it was EQ that was associated with flulike symptoms. In reality, all AAS compounds are capable of generating flulike symptoms.
I would definitely run the GH for 2 months or so before a cycle.. and when you are ready you can hit this cycle minus the prop if you please..
http://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles/beginner-cycle-1-or-2-test-e-w...
And also take a look at this group as a whole... has almost everything you need in order to begin your journey..
http://www.eroids.com/og/beginners-cycles/
Good luck to your brother!!
thank you konig
If you haven't run HGH before, spend about 6 weeks getting to know it. You may get all you want out of that and def. no acne or anger issues. You may miss some sleep at first and get irritable. Then, check where you're at and run a cycle. If first time, follow grygst72's advice and get an AI as well.
If you never took a cycle before you might want to start with a basic of Test E @500 for 12 weeks then PCT. After you have done that you can see where you end up. Oral cycle for the 1st time might not do it for you especially on a high BF because Anavar I believe is for cutting. You will get acne no matter what if you had it when you were a kid, You might go bald if it runs in your family but I'm not saying it will happen. Your balls will slightly shrink. Other then that it's not a demon.
i had a few zits as a kid, but nothing major. No baldness in my family. when you say test E @ 500 ..is that per week? All at one time? Yeah ..unfortunately i am high in the bf area ha. I have lost a considerable amount of weight though by simply getting my diet right in preparation for this.
I rarely drink .. I can't eat fried shit ..and i have grown to like casein and whey protein and almost prefer it over real food. Fortunately ... in my area fresh seafood is abundant and happen to love mahi, blue crabs, crawfish, and shrimp. I picked up a green egg grill and ever since ... fresh fish/green egg = unbelievable
I only mention anavar because I can get it local easy. Ive read that test e and hgh go hand in hand.
I appreciate the advice.