First Time Tren User
Going to be running Tren E for the first time with a Tren Ace Kicker. This is just an Idea. I am still doing
research and I am open to any input or suggestions. By no means am I a pro or do I know all the tricks of the trade.
Here is my proposed cycle:
The cycle below Is just a test cycle I have built but I want to know if it would be a good Idea to run the tren like this with it:
week 1-4 tren Ace
week 1-10 tren Enth
CYCLE
week 1-4 D-bol
week 1-2 test prop 125mg EOD
week 1-12 test enth 125mg EOD
week 6-14 anavar 80mg/day
week 1-14 .25 mg arimidex ed (if I have progesterone issues I will use caber which I will have as well)
PCT
Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
3-5g of Vitamin C ED to combat cortisol.
Arimidex .25 ED
Caber On hand for Progest.
I have also thought about adding HCG From week 2 to the end of cycle into pct.
Not sure of the doses.
I have also got T3 on hand which can be used to battle low TSH levels.
Ive done around 10 Test cycles in the past and Its just not cutting it for me anymore.
I'm looking for something new.
Stats:
Age:25
Weight:215
BF%:12
Compound experience:
Test E, Test Prop, Sustanon, masteron, eq, anavar, winni, d-bol
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Caber is used to combat prolactin (leaky nipples) and is common with high doses of Deca.
tren causes prolactin as well m8
clearly you do not have any understanding whatsoever of how the thyroid works. First of all your tsh will go down even worse if you take T3. What's the point of taking t3 anyways? You are going to mess yourself up I suggest you don't do that.
also caber does nothing for progesterone...
Some people are agreeing with me, Ive read about this plenty of times. You must not have an understanding.
Because "some people are agreeing with me" doesn't mean crap. You just had a an advanced member give you some advice and you dismissed it as he doesn't have an understanding. The only person who is missing something here is you. Drop your pride and try to learn something from people who have actual experience with these things. If you want to take something, that is up to you, but you should open your mind and truly learn the pros and cons of it and take the advice of those who know. Best of luck.
This is just one of the issues with Tren and the seemingly endless array of side effects. When I run Tren, I'm one of those people that must supplement with T3. With me, Tren lowers T3 and it gets to the point that I can't even get out of bed if I don't take T3. Of course, you're absolutely correct that taking T3 crashes your TSH.
AnonDam again with the progesterone just cuz it looks like estrogen people get so scared from it. Are u gona break it down for them or should i?
What's the proposed dose of the Trens? Is it there and I just can't see it? Pay real careful attention to what Details just said below. By week 4 ur gonna have a good idea of how u react but sometimes there's more to come with Tren - if u start pinning E and there are problems ur gonna have more misery than necessary - stick with A. BTW, what are your goals here? Is there something specific u want that u think nothing but Tren is gonna accomplish? I use it, so no criticism from that standpoint just curious . . .
The proposed dose of Tren is 400 mg. I want some hard mass and recomp.
OK bro. Hope it agrees with you and u get the benefits without nasty sides. Tren quality is important IMHO. Tren A should not be dark amber. The raw is slightly yellow and with most common carrier oils the finished product should be a golden color. Tren E is even lighter. Some labs bake the stuff at too high a temperature in production and it oxidizes the Tren A and u get this dark product. Be snooty and discriminating with this stuff. Only the best.
Using different esters of tren is rather intermediate. I would just stick with ace this time around and see if you're one of the people who can tolerate it fine, or if you're one of the people who get every side in the book.
Alright bud. Like I said I think I am going to stick with the Ace. We'll see how it goes
You need to finish your stats ie: height and body fat. I mean if you're 5'5" at 215lbs with 25% body fat then you've got bigger problems then trying to plan your next cycle...
5'9, my weight and bf are up there if you read it. And no Im not some morbidly obese midget thankyou?
Forgive me bud but based on your cycle above it does not seem like you have actually run ten cycles or at least you haven't learned anything. Your mixing esters all over the place and are playing with fire with the tren. If your absolutely adamant on running tren then get your labs done including prolactin. Then I would use a simple blend mix from any of the sources. One with a 50/50/50 ratio of prop tren ace and mast prop for 8 weeks and record your labs and chart your gains.You have to remember tren is 5 times more potent the test. See how you handle the night sweats and tren somnia along with the mood swings. Also your diet has to be on point to see the best results. Tren is not to be taken lightly and you look like your going squirrel hunting with a cannon for your first try. Personally I think you should wait a while longer and maybe do an equipoise and sust cycle with some tbol as a finisher. You might find your results better then you expect without the danger of tren.
Ive ran ten cycles hows that so hard to believe?
the tren e will start to kick in around week 2 so weeks 2-4 I think you'll have way way too much tren going. I would just do the tren ace for your first run with it. Once you figure out a dosage you like then I would go with the tren e next time. I personally love tren but the sides are too much for some people and as we all know with enethates you'll be stuck with those sides for a couple weeks
oops, that's supposed to say weeks 1-2. Hence matching it with the test prop.
10 cycles at 25 years old. So even if your first cycle was at 20 you've probably done some HPTA damage. Your wife works in a lab and you say you're fine. Prove it and post your latest bloodwork. If you do this, you'll get more feedback on this proposed cycle.
AnonI'm a lil confused is this your first Tren cycle period? Or is this your first cycle running Tren E? First cycle using Tren means leave the Enanthate ester alone for now. Don't get caught in an ester u can't drop immediately wen u learn the side effects. If u have a bad run on Enanthate you'll be stuck with it for 3-4 wks until it leaves ur system.
First Tren cycle period. I think im just going to stick with the ace. Everyone is saying don't do the tren E. Probably a good idea.
You take Caber immediately. I hate seeing these "on hand" statements. Its like saying I have a condom on hand if I get a std.
Personally, I'd preload caber. I start prami two weeks before I pin a 19-nor.
alright thanks for the insight.
25 with 10 cycles under you? ...and running tren? (SIGH)
like I said I'm open for any input.
get bloodwork done and see an endo
I get blood work at the beginning, middle and end of cycles. The wife works in the lab. I'm fine.
That's correct
I would match your esters.. your running test prop with Test E any reason why not run the Tren Ace all the way through ?
Im running the test prop, and tren ace as a kicker. I want the long esters to match for the majority of the cycle. (tren enth, test enth).