posted Wed, 08/08/2012 - 22:09
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Cycle Critique: Test E, Test P Kick/D-bol Kick
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I just started my fourth cycle, just seein what you boys think, I'm looking for any positive feedback I can get as this is the first time i've used the Prop Kick/End Technique.
Week 1-10: Test E 750mg (375mg) mon/thurs
Week 1-3: possibly(4): Test P 100mg mon/wed/fri
Week 1-4: D-bol 50mg/ed
Week 11-12: Test P 750mg/wk
Arimidex: .25mg ed
Nolva: On hand for Gyno
PCT:
Starts 2 Days After Last Test P injection
Nolva: 40/40/20/20/20/20
Clomid: Day 1: 300 mg, Day 2: 200 mg, Days 3-11: 100 mg, Days 12-22: 50 mgs.
What are your thoughts on HCG for this cycle?
Any input or suggestions are appreciated.
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Another thing, Zewi,I did my first shot of Test E 750mg monday and today I am going to be doing another shot of 750mg. If i Decided to drop the Test Enthanate to 500mg on the second week and run it the 12 weeks like you said, will it be okay. I mean It should be by all reasoning as the Enthanate won't start till around week 3-4 but safer to get a vets oppinion.
750 a shot?? that's over a gram a week.. you should be shooting 375mg twice a week to = 750 a week???? Please tell us that's a typo and your not really bad at math PLEASE!!
haha yes sorry it was a typo. Good laugh though, wouldnt even consider those doses.
Do i read right you say you hit 750mg mon then your gonna hit another 750mg tonight... thats 1.5grams bud WTF is going on!
Far too much test for a gyno prone and adding d/bol also you are walking into GYNO.COM territory here... we need to rethink here seriously.
Yes it was a typo, 750 a week. i'll edit that haha
zewiyeah i missed that.. it does sound like that.. in my head it just showed up 750mg a week.. good call vike.
Thought it was a typo at first brother... not your fault at all we just need to make sure he dont go blasting gram an half in his ass every f-ing week.
Yeah I thought it was a typo too but shiiiit if it wasn't...
zewiyou can do anything you want.. that’s fine too. You can keep it at 750mg a week. I’m just saying since your prone to gyno and your taking Dbol and test p running 500mg might be best.
Thanks guys, lots to take into consideration, Zewi, I decided to take the leap to 750mg as opposed to 500mg because I ran 500mg my last cycle and it is said that 750 is a max sweet point for most. Also I like the idea of tapering the Test P as OmNom said, it would definately prepare my body more for PCT, which I hadn't really thought about. I'm mildy sensitive to gyno so I thought I would take the ADEX every day at .25mg, But I think I am going to consider EOD or E3D because I dont want to hinder my gains a whole lot, also I could tamper accordingly if sides come up.
Prop kick n taper...yes. Zewi dialed ya in
. Just not the biggest dbol fan.
zewiNot bad but could be better.. Just adding my 2 cents.
Run the test e for 12 weeks, also no need to run Dbol and Test P as a kicker, and i don’t mind the taper HCG is up to you.
(Never like Dbol unless the user understands liver support.)
750mg is up to you I’m more a 500 guy, unless I’m running EQ,DecaTren or something along those lines.
However, IMO here the cycles I would have choose from. I think you would see better results with any of these cycles, and IMO and 99% everyone here would say run test e for 12 weeks.
Reminder to any CYCLE DIET IS KEY it is number #1 to all cycles. Here you go from uncle Zewi..
1
1-4 Test P @ 100mg EOD
1-12 TEST E @ 500mg a week(if you want this 750mg thats up to you and im fine with)
13-15 Test P @ 100mg EOD
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..
PCT Start 3 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
2
1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
1-12 TEST E @ 500mg a week(if you want this 750mg thats up to you and im fine with)
13-15 Test P @ 100mg EOD
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..
PCT Start 3 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
3 IF i was running them all
1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
1-4 Test P @ 100mg EoD
1-12 Test E @ 500mg
12-15 Test p @ 100mg EoD
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..
PCT Start 3 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
Would numbers stay the same on dosage if u where to add deca to the 3rd cycle choice u have there? Or would u have to boost the test up a touch
zewiA deca test would be differnt. Something like this
1-4 Dbol @ 50mg ED
1-12 Deca @ 400mg a week
1-15 Test E @ 500mg a week
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..
Start pct 15 days after last shot..
or if you wanted test p too
1-4 Dbol @50mg ed
1-4 test p 100mg eod
1-12 Deca @ 400mg a week
1-12 Test @ 500mg a week
13-16 Test P @ 100mg Eod
Arimidex .25mg e3d if nipples get sore .5mg e3d or .5mg ed..
start pct 3 days after last test p shot.
Thanks I'll write this cycle down and keep it for after I have done my test only cycle .
Ur the Fucking man homeboy! Option 3 is what I would run without question. The prop is my favorite kick. Add some dbol to that as a tandem and your cycle is off to a killer start. Taper with prop and u jump right into PCT without having to wait two wks. I like it
zewiI try... what can i say.. .brother..
I replied directly to the thread with a question haha sorry
I think your cycle looks solid for a fourth besides the tapering with test P.. HcG can't hurt to try since you want less of a crash on your balls.. just do your research on it because it's not meant to be used for a long period of time or else you become dependent... Some may argue that you should use Arimidex EoD instead of ED.. May want to try EoD see what happens.. Could save you money and sides or just do nothing.. Frankly if you get gyno DURING your cycle I wouldn't even bother with nolva.. most likely your AI is bunk if your getting gyno on a test only cycle and you need to bitch out your source and get a new AI asp
Also the Test P in the last 2 weeks is to allow the ethanate to come out of my system, thus allowing me to complete a 12 week cycle with test and start my PCT quicker than if I were to stay on Enthanate for 12.
I think you should lower the test P the last few weeks so you can taper off to let your body adjust to your upcoming drop in testosterone instead of it going from 750 to 0 it could go from 750 then 500 then 250 or less THEN pct.. Less harsh of a crash and most will agree
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