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FIRST TIME TEST ONLY 12 WEEK CYCLE FOR NEWBIES GUIDE

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Weeks 1-12: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Monday Morning Thursday night)
Optional: Weeks 1-4: 30mg of Dbol per day (split in two doses, one pre workout, one 12 hours later)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 15, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

And that's it. Simple, straightforward and a great first cycle. Remember, time on + PCT = time off before cycle. So this whole cycle would take you 16 weeks, so you need to wait 16 weeks before your next cycle so your body is fully normalized in its natural hormonal state before doing another cycle.

*Note: you could run the testosterone for two more weeks, Weeks 1-12, just move all the other times for the other compounds up by 2 weeks, so PCT starts week 14, HCG/Arimidex ends before you start PCT. Dbol dosage would still stay the same for 4 weeks. *

equiposer's picture

If I wanna drop the dbol and get some prop do you know what the proper protocol this would be for weeks 1-4. I've read lots of conflicting amounts?

Also, is hcg sub-q or im?

gucci7891's picture

Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
is optional or if u get signs of gyno

hcg is otional also or if your cashew nuts start to shrink lol

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eatbig@

and why can't you draw the hcg and test into the same pin?

oil doesnt mix with water.

then again someone with more knowledge maybe able to help you on this

Roid Noid's picture

I dont know about HCG and Test in the same syringe. But the thoery of water and oil dont mix is not true. I have pinned oil based and water based in the same syringe many times, it is not suggested but it is possible.

gucci7891's picture

roidnoid

but id personaly just use a different syringe

thanks for the reply bro

Roid Noid's picture

Most would! Im just sicker than most! Smile

gucci7891's picture

lol

gucci7891's picture

nolva instead of anastrozole

its upto you like scootloko said you only use it if u get sighns of gyno but you can take it for extra safety

you can use either one dont forget you will also need nola for your pct

Roid Noid's picture

why would you suggest a Serm in place of an AI?

Roid Noid's picture

Hcg is generally not reccomended for a first cycle, it can be ran but really isnt necessary for this cycle, if it is ran it would be best to run it for 14 weeks up to the day before PCT starts. Everything else looks good!

SL's picture

See this is why I asked on my post if it was mandatory because I haven't done roids in 8 years and it was a very low dose for 8 weeks when I did.

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Roid Noid's picture

Also I changed your PCT from 12 to the appropiate 15

gucci7891's picture

if u mix 5000ui HCG in 5ml of bac water , 1ml will hold 1000ui , so u draw up 25mg and there u go

eatbig's picture

Thanx this will help me in the future

eatbig's picture

Thank you guys this is a big help to me. Pretty close to the cycle I am looking into now. my 1st. My question is if your hcg is equal to 5,000iu in ur vile how do you know when you have 250iu in ur pin? and why can't you draw the hcg and test into the same pin? and if you did happen to have signes of gyno during cycle can you use nolva instead of anastrozole?

scootloko's picture

Looks good bro, took me several months of research as a rookie to come up with basically what you have here. Woulda saved me some trouble lol. Only thing is I would list the hcg as optional for this cycle and list the anastrozole as "use only if needed" since anastrozole can slow gains to a degree and isnt needed unless you see signs of gyno. Just to clarify, since you have pct starting at week 12 you should run the testE weeks 1-10 not 1-12. I understood what you meant but a newb may get confused.