First Test Enth and Test Prop cycle.
New here, long time lurker. Ive been doing all the research i can and wanted to be sure I have all my ducks in a row before first pin. Even going as far as using steroidcalc.com, seems to be a great resource.
Im 31/195lbs/ about 16% bodyfat/ been going to the gym for about 3 years now, in case yall were wondering. As a frist cycle im just hoping to gain more lean muscle and lose some body fat as well. I do cardio EOD when at the gym, about 2 miles each visit. Should i lay off the cardio some for a first cycle? Ive read that there will be some discomfort with a moderate amount of cardio.
Week 1-3 Test Prop 250mg/mL to frontload Enthanate
Week 4-12 Test Enth @ 400mg/mL
Then Weeks 12-16 ill be taking Nolvadex. 40/40/20/20
I will have some Arimidex as well i received in a promo. Should i take the Arimidex instead of the Nolvadex? Or run the Arimidex after.
Any help Id greatly appreciate as this is my first run and like i said i want to make sure Im fully prepared.
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You got some good advice already,
While you continue to cut and research this cycle you can go ahead and do your precycle bloods.
Fyi, mg per ml is the concentration of the gear, not the weekly dose.
So 400mg a week of enthanate would be 2-200mg plugs?
Not sure what a plug is.
Test e typically comes as 250 mg per ml.
If you want to pin 200 mg of that test e you pull 4/5 Of a cc, or .8 cc into the syringe.
That would be 200 mg.
Plugs-pinning
The unit of measurement is on the vial. So ex. if the vial reads 500mg/mL theres 500mg of test enthanate per 1mL correct?
That is correct, 1cc or one ml of that gear would contain 500 mg or test.
And hurt like hell
Hahaha so Ive heard. When i eventually cycle on itll be only 2 shots a week of 250mgs. 500 per Id wind up like Jay Cutler with backne looking like constellations...
You said you did all the research. With all that research tell us why your first cycle including PCT is WRONG.
Why prop for first cycle?
Why would test E start week four?
Only nolvadex for PCT? Why?
Why does your flawed pct start same week as last pin? Also why would you not do that with test E?
Try to research and answer these questions. Your diet will dictate losing or gaining body fat.
My replies are further down. Not going to cycle til my BF % is further down.
So you want to lose ten pounds by taking testosterone plus stopping your cardio.
hmmm.
Smh.
I've been down to around 12% bf before, but then that good ole Life comes and stopped my "gains" for awhile. I've lost a fair bit of BF from just hitting the weights hard. I'm not doing JUST cardio or something haha. I could've been a little more clear on my 2nd ever post. Lesson learned.
I'm gonna focus on getting around 13-14% bf before I start though, then cycle.
Good.
If your making progress without steroids, continue to do so.
Well done on losing the bf first etc.
Good luck.
You cycle is wrong if you are looking to front load. You would start the test E and Prop together, the prop would kick in fast while you are waiting for the Test E to bring your levels up. That being said, I wouldnt recommend that for your first cycle.
As far as AI dosing, it is different for everyone and the only way to be sure is with blood tests. I would avoid AI unless you have symptoms (research and be aware of the symptoms) until after an initial blood test 4-5 weeks in.
Also, you should have a set goal for your cycle, either bulking or cutting with a diet and macros lined out (I recommend bulking for first cycle). Check out the Beginner's Cycles Group, there is some great info in there. It looks like you might want to do a little more research before you start cycling. Good luck.
I won't be frontloading, just going to make the first cycle as easy as possible and see how my body reacts. It'll be a little while before I cycle, going to work off some extra BF first.
I have a feeling you are gonna be in for a big surprise when your estro starts creeping up and all you have is some a dex you got off a promo. 1st, my experience was I had both aromasin and a dex on hand and glad I did cus the Aromasin killed me. Was able to switch and had smooth sailing. 2nd, is the Aromasin good? Pharmaceutical, or a track record of being dosed properly? These r things to think of now...or wait until you feel that lump starting then stress about trying to find good ai that u can get quick all while your titties are growing
So ill leave out the Prop for my first cycle, instead run just the Enth. Ill plan on having both on hand like you were saying, the nova and arimidex. How should i change my dosing if i have both, and just running the Enthanate?
All this lurking on the site but your cycle is all monkeyed up. I don't know if you were trying to do a frontload with the prop but what you have layed out is not what you would want to do. You need to research more on a frontload but for a first cycle you don't want to do it anyway. What areyou planning to do for AI on cycle? When are you planning to do bloodwork. Again, all this lurking here and that is the PCT you came up with up!? Scrap the whole thing you have laid out there and start over, because all that cycle will do is to put you in a world of hurt.
Before you do any cycling, I would recommend you drop that bodyfat down a few points first and then focus on a bulk. Trying to do both here is like chasing two squirrels at the same time. You won't catch either on.
Ill just leave out the Prop and just run the Enth instead. Im working on getting m bodyfat down now as well, trying to get to 185 probably first. Ive got about a month before i can decide if this is a good idea and adjust accordingly. Id rather bulk then cut, like you were saying because the way i am now i know im good at cutting, but idk if thatll be necessarily true after a cycle. I do decent cardio (8 -12 miles a wk) and stay in my macro range and watching what i eat.
Bloodwork halfway and at the end of test cycle and then again after completion.
AI will be Arimidex on cycle.
Cycle will be more like this now:
Wk 1-10 Test Enanthate
Wk 1-12 Arimidex - .25mg daily
Nolva for PCT
I think im getting somwhere now, and im a little more comfortable with this as itll be less pinning and just the one type of Test.
I appreciate the advice btw!
Have to get specific with the goal you have in mind for this cycle? If you continue to do all that cardio, it is going to have a big impact on what you can actually accomplish with a cycle?
I was curious if i should cut it out while on test. What would someone recommend for a first run? None? Tried running a search but im still sifting through posts.
What I would recommend is that you keep doing it until you knock of a few BF% first like I said. You are going to have to switch your diet up too the way it looks because I would think with all that cardio your BF would be a lot lower by now, so switch up your diet also. Then look into running a cycle. Lot less chance for estro sides and you are going to gain alot more muscle doing it that way also, I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass either.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/scientific-proof-lower...
I'll keep working on just the cardio and hold off on cycling for awhile. Thanks again!
Click through some of my forum posts to help guide your fatloss journey.
Ive read a couple articles already! Very insightful! Again, thank you very much, i think ive learned quite a bit just from the few I have looked at, including the BitCoin topics. Its always confused the shit out of me haha.